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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: I'll have to agree with Gene, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I work in the scientific community and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: there are alot of people that just want the money for their half baked +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: ideas. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Interesting thing about the ozone layer is that ham radio uses +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: the ozone layer for bouncing signals off. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Surprisingly the radio +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: propagation is dependent on sun spot activity which is virtually nill +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: right now, but in a few years propagation is supposed to increase +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: because the sun spots will return. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-At the same time there are +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: scientists who say the ozone hole will be reducing by the year 2000 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: because of all the steps taken for CFC removal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Makes you wonder+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Wrong. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ham radio signals bounce off the ionosphere, not the ozone +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-layer. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ozone is transparent to radio waves. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-And the crackpots are those still claiming CFCs don't destroy the ozone, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-in spite of overwhelming hard data, accepted theories, and a Nobel Prize +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-to the originators. +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I included a message that Dan wrote and my response for correction. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- am not saying CFC do not destroy ozone, but I don't really accept that +ADw-br+AD4- all the damage is being done by human made CFC's, some is probably +ADw-br+AD4- being done but is it really enough that the environment is not +ADw-br+AD4- repairing it? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I don't know, I personally don't have access to all the +ADw-br+AD4- data. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Besides so what some one won a nobel prize, you don't even give +ADw-br+AD4- evidence to who they are. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The data they are collecting has only been +ADw-br+AD4- in the last decade or so because of use of the SR-71 aircraft and +ADw-br+AD4- other sattelites for scientific use. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This is when sunspot activity +ADw-br+AD4- was decreasing, which you did not address. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Most good scientific data +ADw-br+AD4- that is used in the medical and environmental fields are culminated +ADw-br+AD4- over an extensive period of time and or specimens, 10 years in a +ADw-br+AD4- world that has been around for billions? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I am adding this info for +ADw-br+AD4- constructive debate, not ranting and raving like you that we all have +ADw-br+AD4- to believe what YOU have to say. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Humans are prone to make mistakes. +ADw-br+AD4- Mistakes on the conservative side aren't necassarily all bad but you +ADw-br+AD4- do have to weigh the alternatives. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've run enough tests in my +ADw-br+AD4- company to know that when there is a failure in the article being +ADw-br+AD4- tested and there is big money to be made, the parameters are changed +ADw-br+AD4- to show that it was a huge succes. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Face it, non technical people +ADw-br+AD4- looking at a technical report that shows some thing works makes news +ADw-br+AD4- and generates money. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Some of the scientific community are no better +ADw-br+AD4- than charlatan's and snake oil sales men. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Been there done that+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
You're right Dan, my error in saying that we use the ozone layer, the +ADw-br+AD4- truth of the matter is the E, F and other layers will become more +ADw-br+AD4- active when sunspots return when some of these scientists expect the +ADw-br+AD4- ozone layer to return. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And yes I am a HAM. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Interesting though Dave, +ADw-br+AD4- I made a mistake in layer designation but you didn't dispute the jist +ADw-br+AD4- of the message. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I bet you don't like NO-Code tech's either, I entered +ADw-br+AD4- that way but have gone on in class, while your at it what kind of call +ADw-br+AD4- sign is that with no number in it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I guess we all make simple +ADw-br+AD4- mistakes. +ADw-br+AD4- Bud +ADw-br+AD4- omne ignotum pro magnifico +ADw-br+AD4- Bud +ADw-br+AD4- omne ignotum pro magnifico +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I included a message that Dan wrote and my response for correction. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-am not saying CFC do not destroy ozone, but I don't really accept that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-all the damage is being done by human made CFC's, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-What other kind of CFC's are there? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's a legitimate question to ask +ADw-br+AD4- whether natural sources of chlorine and bromine could contribute to the +ADw-br+AD4- ozone hole. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The best evidence, however, is that such natural sources of +ADw-br+AD4- halogens are rained out in the troposphere and never make it to the +ADw-br+AD4- troposphere and that the only way to account for the chlorine in the +ADw-br+AD4- stratosphere based upon the global chlorine budget is that it comes from +ADw-br+AD4- CFC's. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
The ozone hole keeps getting worse each year. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ordinarily, ozne would be +ADw-br+AD4- both depleted and formed. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-CFC's have introduced a new source to destroy +ADw-br+AD4- O3 without introducing a new way to create it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
See J. Geophysical Res. 94 11,465 and also 11,480. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Rowland, Molina, and a third researcher whose name escapes me shared +ADw-br+AD4- this years Nobel prize in chemistry for their work on ozone depletion. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
ClO concentrations were directly anticorrelated with O3 concentrations. +ADw-br+AD4- I really suggest reading the literature before criticizing arguments you +ADw-br+AD4- don't understand. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
There has been solid evidence for the role of CFC's in ozone depletion +ADw-br+AD4- since the 1987 ER2 mission (nine years ago). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Other data on O3 +ADw-br+AD4- concentration has been gathered for quite a bit longer. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
I came in late, so I missed the ranting and raving. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you are +ADw-br+AD4- sincerely interested in this issue, the evidence is substantial. +ADw-br+AD4- Usenet is probably not the best place to read about it. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The scientific +ADw-br+AD4- literature is available at any halfway decent library. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Perhaps, but I have friends working in some of the labs doing research +ADw-br+AD4- in this area and I can assure you that they are good scientists. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is +ADw-br+AD4- not so easy to publish in a peer-reviewed journal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Also, science tends +ADw-br+AD4- to be very competitive. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If a researcher thought s/he could prove others +ADw-br+AD4- wrong, s/he would jump at the chance. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I also think that you ought not +ADw-br+AD4- to accuse someone of being a snake oil salesman without examining the +ADw-br+AD4- validity of that person's argument. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The references I suggested above are a good starting place. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Regards, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Rich Green +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ADw-wbr+AD4-- +ADw-br+AD4- Richard J. Green +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Dept. of Chemistry +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Would you mind it TERRIBLY if you moved your scientific theory +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-discussion to some non-automotive oriented newsgroup such as +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-alt.science.ozone.wonk or somewhere similar? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There's REALLY no need to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-continue your science theory arguments on this type newsgroup, is there? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Jerry Bransford +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-PP-ASEL, KC6TAY, C.A.P. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-The Zen hotdog... make me one with everything+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Jerry, you have said this enough to become a nuisance. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you don't want to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- read or be reminded of it then kill the thread. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-While this may not be the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- proper forum, there is obviously interest in it, or it wouldn't have over a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- 100 responses/rebuttals/insults (chose one). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Yes, and you are obviously not interested in whether or not what you +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-want to discuss relates to the newsgroup's preferred subject matter. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-And, the VAST majority of postings have been yours, you are the one who +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-is keeping it alive with your continued arguments. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-CONTINUED ozone +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-depletion discussion is simply not automotive related and it shouldn't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-be here. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Simple as that. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you want to argue scientific ozone theory, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-take it where it is appropriate or take it private. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Perhaps we should +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-simply forget about keeping subjects relative to the newsgroup's name?? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-You truly are clueless if you can't understand that a long ongoing and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-drawn-out discussion of a non-related subject matter is not polite to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-others or in the best interest of the newsgroups you insist on copying +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-your posts to. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Grow up and stop your pointless drawn-out whining about +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-who's right on ozone theory. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Jerry Bransford +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-PP-ASEL, KC6TAY, C.A.P. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-The Zen hotdog... make me one with everything+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I would also really appreciate the Freon thing moving to another +ADw-br+AD4- newsgroup. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It will be so nice. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-AMZ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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