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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:33:04 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-ul+AD4- +ADw-li class+AD0AIg-pageleft+ACIAPg-Page:+ADw-/li+AD4APA-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-7eb04510dc4138ea+AF8-1.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-1+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-7eb04510dc4138ea+AF8-2.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-2+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-/ul+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p16+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile16+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-papa..+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content16+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p16+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-papa..+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- Well I dont have to have a SHIFT-R but do we really need to go thru +ADw-br+AD4- eleven clicks of the mouse as punishment for botching the start. +ADw-br+AD4- Couldnt it be 3 or 4? Eleven seems quite a bit of punishment +ADw-br+AD4- especially considering all the menus default to the wrong answer. Im +ADw-br+AD4- not a pro at this (yet)+ACY-lt+ADs-VBG+ACY-gt+ADs- so going thru all the clicks is just damn +ADw-br+AD4- tedious. Maybe the screen could just show a graphic of the driver +ADw-br+AD4- getting spanked for his/her mistake.+ACY-lt+ADs-G+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p17+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile17+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jo+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content17+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p17+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-But you know what really does stick in my craw about this sim is the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-interface....I PHOOCKING HATE THE INTERFACE....ALOT...UM really . +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I have counted the amount of clicks with a mouse it takes to get back +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to the starting line if you botch a start. ELEVEN...ARRRGGGGHH that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-sucks...big time...I realise that the interface duplicates the old WC +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-but heh its the 21 century..+ACY-lt+ADs-VBG+ACY-gt+ADs- How about a shortcut key like ICR +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-has...botch the start shift-R and you go right back and try again +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Not sure I'ld go quite that far, but it is a real shame that Geoff +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Crammond seemingly refused to even look at Papy's games. He could have +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-learned a lot about the non-physics model stuff (that's not to say +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that he couldn't also have learned anything from the physics model - +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-different subject +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-As for the re-start option, I must admit that I found it too easy to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-restart in ICR. Made me a little too agressive at the start of the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-races, knowing that I could easily restart +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Richard +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I think the restart would be good for the +ACY-quot+ADs-quickrace+ACY-quot+ADs- selection. I do +ADw-br+AD4- a lot of quickraces to get used to a course, and flying in to the +ADw-br+AD4- gravel and spending the next 20 seconds in slow-mo twisting my T2 to +ADw-br+AD4- the breaking point and watching the entire field dissappear in the +ADw-br+AD4- distance isn't any help in learning the course, and has often been the +ADw-br+AD4- last straw for an evening of GP2. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I would agree that there shouldn't +ADw-br+AD4- be a +ACY-lt+ADs-shift-r+ACY-gt+ADs- sort of thing for formal races. You+ACoAKgAq-one of them +ADw-br+AD4- up, you ought to start all over. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-About the interface- ya, it can be irritating. I'd say that neither +ADw-br+AD4- Papy nor Crammond quite got it right yet.. In GP2, I'd say the major +ADw-br+AD4- headache is the default answer to +ACY-quot+ADs-Are you sure you want to +ADw-br+AD4- abandon/quit/etc.?+ACY-quot+ADs- being +ACY-quot+ADs-no.+ACY-quot+ADs- That is grating. Reminds me of trying +ADw-br+AD4- to quit WordPerfect for DOS+ACE- Anyone remember that stupidity? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The GP2 interface might be better if it had a better manual- I +ADw-br+AD4- understand from rumor in this group that Americans got ripped off in +ADw-br+AD4- the manual department. I could believe it- it didn't even tell me how +ADw-br+AD4- to get to car setups, and it took me 4 or 5 days before I tackled how +ADw-br+AD4- to do anything in the pits. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Another thing... weren't in-car torsion bar adjustments in '94 F1 +ADw-br+AD4- cars? I guess that is a technicality... but what really kills me is +ADw-br+AD4- not having any brake bias adjustments. I'm in Hungary right now, and +ADw-br+AD4- getting the car nibmle with the brakes is crucial for me. I really +ADw-br+AD4- don't like this course+ADs- maybe I will learn to. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-But do I like GP2? Yes, of course I do. It is quite a shock from ICR2, +ADw-br+AD4- where the cars are seemingly on ice... I really like having both of +ADw-br+AD4- them to jump between. I love the fact that GP2 has steering and +ADw-br+AD4- braking help- that way my 5 year old can race too. She feared ICR2, +ADw-br+AD4- and I don't blame her, it is the most unforgiving driving model. ICR2 +ADw-br+AD4- is hard-core sim, no frills. I think if they gave it some frills like +ADw-br+AD4- GP2, they could have made their market wider. BUt I guess that hope is +ADw-br+AD4- lost these days... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I also love the fact Crammond really thought about how important it is +ADw-br+AD4- to let the user configure controller sensitivities very carefully. I +ADw-br+AD4- begged Papyrus to consider that+ADs- but no, you got linear, you got +ADw-br+AD4- non-linear, that's it. People might say my request was unrealistic, +ADw-br+AD4- but let's face it, a real car moving shows a lot of resistance to +ADw-br+AD4- turning when it goes fast versus slow, which is it's own sort of +ADw-br+AD4- non-linear sensitivity. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p18+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile18+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-G. Warren Ab+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content18+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p18+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-G. Warren Ab+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- It's weird. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've seen a lot of r.a.s. posts from the USA asking simple +ADw-br+AD4- questions about car setup, but my USA manual has basic tips for all of the +ADw-br+AD4- setup questions. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There's a six+ACoAKgAq--page section in the Appendix of my manual +ADw-br+AD4- that discusses car setup issues. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-FYI, my manual is 150 pages and all pix are in B+ACY-amp+ADs-W. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I purchased GP2 in Orange +ADw-br+AD4- Park, FL. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +------------------+-------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-G. Warren Abao +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- Official BBL Jacksonville Jaguars Website: +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +-----------------------------------------+------------------ +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- SPOOOOOOOOOOON+ACEAIQAh- +AHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-BBL Jacksonville 1-0 +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- IFL Chicago 11-7 +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +-------------------+------------------------+------------------ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p19+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile19+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Richard Walk+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content19+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p19+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Richard Walk+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-hehehe Well old habits die hard. Used to have to write like that on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the Prodigy Flight sim board to get past the censors +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Another nail in the coffin of those who say censorship never works +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-lt+ADs-VVBG+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Richard +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p20+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile20+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Michael E. Carv+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content20+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p20+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Michael E. Carv+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +AFs-snip snip snip+AF0- +ADw-br+AD4- : Another thing... weren't in-car torsion bar adjustments in '94 F1 +ADw-br+AD4- : cars? I guess that is a technicality... but what really kills me is +ADw-br+AD4- : not having any brake bias adjustments. I'm in Hungary right now, and +ADw-br+AD4- : getting the car nibmle with the brakes is crucial for me. I really +ADw-br+AD4- : don't like this course+ADs- maybe I will learn to. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I am no rule expert, but I can't believe we can't adjust the brake bias +ADw-br+AD4- from the car+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I mean, even the poor American manuals says, +ACY-quot+ADs-The driver +ADw-br+AD4- can adjust the brake balance from the+ACoAKgAq-pit...+ACY-quot+ADs- (pg.122) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: But do I like GP2? Yes, of course I do. It is quite a shock from ICR2, +ADw-br+AD4- : where the cars are seemingly on ice... I really like having both of +ADw-br+AD4- : them to jump between. I love the fact that GP2 has steering and +ADw-br+AD4- : braking help- that way my 5 year old can race too. She feared ICR2, +ADw-br+AD4- : and I don't blame her, it is the most unforgiving driving model. ICR2 +ADw-br+AD4- : is hard-core sim, no frills. I think if they gave it some frills like +ADw-br+AD4- : GP2, they could have made their market wider. BUt I guess that hope is +ADw-br+AD4- : lost these days... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Actually I hope Papyrus does not back away from producing +ACY-quot+ADs-hard-core+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- sims. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I enjoy GP2, ICR2, +ACY-amp+ADs- NASCAR. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Each brings something unique to the +ADw-br+AD4- mix. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But I need my +ACY-quot+ADs-hard-core sim+ACY-quot+ADs- fix+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: I also love the fact Crammond really thought about how important it is +ADw-br+AD4- : to let the user configure controller sensitivities very carefully. I +ADw-br+AD4- : begged Papyrus to consider that+ADs- but no, you got linear, you got +ADw-br+AD4- : non-linear, that's it. People might say my request was unrealistic, +ADw-br+AD4- : but let's face it, a real car moving shows a lot of resistance to +ADw-br+AD4- : turning when it goes fast versus slow, which is it's own sort of +ADw-br+AD4- : non-linear sensitivity. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-YES YES YES+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This is an excellent feature of GP2+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Papyrus, if you +ADw-br+AD4- learn nothing else from GP2, study this well+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Of course while you are +ADw-br+AD4- at it, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-CURBS, CURBS, KERBS+ACEAIQAhACEAIQAhACEAIQAhACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- Michael E. Carver +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0AJg-lt+ADsAWw- /./. +ACY-nbsp+ADsAWw-- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-lt+ADs- +AF0AJg-gt+ADsAPQ--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p21+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile21+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Michael E. Carv+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content21+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p21+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Michael E. Carv+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- : As for the re-start option, I must admit that I found it too easy to +ADw-br+AD4- : restart in ICR. Made me a little too agressive at the start of the +ADw-br+AD4- : races, knowing that I could easily restart +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Well, until I have a computer which is 2x the beast that the race sims +ADw-br+AD4- are requiring, I NEED a quick restart. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I don't know how many times a +ADw-br+AD4- good clean start has turned into a +ACY-quot+ADs-red-flag+ACY-quot+ADs- disaster due to the whole +ADw-br+AD4- 1st corner turning into a slow-motion nightmare, having no control +ADw-br+AD4- whatsoever+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-This goes for GP2 +ACY-amp+ADs- Papyrus's products. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- Michael E. Carver +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0AJg-lt+ADsAWw- /./. +ACY-nbsp+ADsAWw-- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-lt+ADs- +AF0AJg-gt+ADsAPQ--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0--+AD0- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p22+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile22+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Manni Stru+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content22+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p22+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Manni Stru+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I think the first poster had it right. Even without the rain drops you would +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-still need the rooster tail coming off the tires which could be done like the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-smoke but transparencies kill your proccessor. Try doing a little whhelspin in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-reverse and then drive through the smoke to see what I mean. Now imagine that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-x4 cars in front of you. I think Geoff was propably unwilling to implement a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-traction only solution which would not have been very real. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-yeah, you're absolutly right about that. I would be satisfied already with +ADw-br+AD4- the colors turned to grey, like the old version had. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- manni struck +ACY-nbsp+ADs-- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-http://www.dortmund.netsurf.de/+AH4-mstruck/ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p23+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile23+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jo+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content23+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p23+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-The GP2 interface might be better if it had a better manual- I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-understand from rumor in this group that Americans got ripped off in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-the manual department. I could believe it- it didn't even tell me how +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to get to car setups, and it took me 4 or 5 days before I tackled how +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to do anything in the pits. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-It's weird. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've seen a lot of r.a.s. posts from the USA asking simple +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-questions about car setup, but my USA manual has basic tips for all of the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-setup questions. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There's a six+ACoAKgAq--page section in the Appendix of my manual +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that discusses car setup issues. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-FYI, my manual is 150 pages and all pix are in B+ACY-amp+ADs-W. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I purchased GP2 in Orange +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Park, FL. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Yep, we got the same one. But maybe you had GP originally... my +ADw-br+AD4- problem wasn't changing setups- in fact, I find them refreshingly +ADw-br+AD4- clear as compared to ICR2... but I was looking and looking in the +ADw-br+AD4- manual for how to GET to the setups, and decided it just isn't in the +ADw-br+AD4- manual. I finally found it in the program, of course. Took me a while +ADw-br+AD4- to figure out how to use the pits too, but that is fine now too. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Any tips on how to do replays? I don't quite understand where to go on +ADw-br+AD4- that matter. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And once and for all, does GP2 keep personal best times for me, or +ADw-br+AD4- only track records? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I love GP2, don't anyone get me wrong... nowhere's near a disaster +ADw-br+AD4- release like some products we might be familiar with. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p24+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile24+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jo+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content24+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p24+ACIAPg-GP2 rain+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I think the first poster had it right. Even without the rain drops you would +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-still need the rooster tail coming off the tires which could be done like the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-smoke but transparencies kill your proccessor. Try doing a little whhelspin in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-reverse and then drive through the smoke to see what I mean. Now imagine that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-x4 cars in front of you. I think Geoff was propably unwilling to implement a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-traction only solution which would not have been very real. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I'm not in to Geof worship at all, but I will say that I am very, very +ADw-br+AD4- impressed with the decisions he made, and he had to make an awful lot +ADw-br+AD4- of decisions (compromises) to get this monster playable on a 486 in +ADw-br+AD4- VGA minimum. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-SOme might say he made it +ACY-quot+ADs-arcadish+ACY-quot+ADs-, but I think he +ADw-br+AD4- just realized +ACY-nbsp+ADs-the fundamental importance of really getting the player +ADw-br+AD4- to believe he is in a car. At Hungary (as I suppose lots of you are +ADw-br+AD4- gearing up on to), I've found that the depth of the simulation really +ADw-br+AD4- becomes apparent, riding that edge between control and spin. The curbs +ADw-br+AD4- are amazing. 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