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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-The arrival of the new AD-converter joystick ports (PDPI for instance), +ADw-br+AD4- makes it possible to make better pedal systems. What immidiately springs +ADw-br+AD4- to my mind is improving brake pedals. On all steering and pedal systems +ADw-br+AD4- I have tried, the pedals travel determines the amount of brakes applied. +ADw-br+AD4- However, the real thing is a pressure sensitive thing (you knew that, +ADw-br+AD4- didn't you?). I think it should be possible to make a pressure sensitive +ADw-br+AD4- device for a race sim controller. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The new AD-converters is much easier to cope with than the standard old +ADw-br+AD4- port beacuse you can feed a voltage into the port instead of the usual +ADw-br+AD4- impedance into the old RC-filter setup. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Has anyone any experience with this? Has anyone made their own pressure +ADw-br+AD4- sensitive thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I think the arrival of GPL has made me see that the next step of +ADw-br+AD4- evolution must come from developing the controller. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-A brake pedal with a short travel, and +ACY-nbsp+ADs-letting the pressure determine +ADw-br+AD4- the amount of brakes would help us all outbraking those CCs (for those +ADw-br+AD4- of you who haven't tried, believe me, it's hard...)... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If no one has made a setup like this, I think I will go further with it, +ADw-br+AD4- because I guess the sim racing community should be extremely interested +ADw-br+AD4- in this... Who knows, I might find a solution that is cheap and highly +ADw-br+AD4- reliable... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4----Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- The arrival of the new AD-converter joystick ports (PDPI for instance), +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- makes it possible to make better pedal systems. What immidiately springs +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- to my mind is improving brake pedals. On all steering and pedal systems +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I have tried, the pedals travel determines the amount of brakes applied. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- However, the real thing is a pressure sensitive thing (you knew that, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- didn't you?). I think it should be possible to make a pressure sensitive +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- device for a race sim controller. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- The new AD-converters is much easier to cope with than the standard old +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- port beacuse you can feed a voltage into the port instead of the usual +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- impedance into the old RC-filter setup. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Has anyone any experience with this? Has anyone made their own pressure +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- sensitive thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I think the arrival of GPL has made me see that the next step of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- evolution must come from developing the controller. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- A brake pedal with a short travel, and +ACY-nbsp+ADs-letting the pressure determine +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the amount of brakes would help us all outbraking those CCs (for those +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- of you who haven't tried, believe me, it's hard...)... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- If no one has made a setup like this, I think I will go further with it, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- because I guess the sim racing community should be extremely interested +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- in this... Who knows, I might find a solution that is cheap and highly +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- reliable... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- ---Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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I own a hyperstimulator, which brake is pressure sensitive....I love +ADw-br+AD4- it+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Remco +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-asgeir nes?en wrote : +ACY-lt+ADs-snip+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Get yourself a ECCI CDS5000... +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(not in production anymore but buy 1 +ADw-br+AD4- second-hand hehe) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It has air-hydraulic control for the pedals +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-- Fran?ois Mnard +ACY-lt+ADs-ymenard+ACY-gt+ADs- Good race at the Brickyard+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. +ADw-br+AD4- - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) +ADw-br+AD4- - Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ on the NROS +ADw-br+AD4- - +ACY-quot+ADs-People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise +ADw-br+AD4- how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.+ACY-quot+ADs--- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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Someone else in this ng. suggested making a cut in a tennis ball and +ADw-br+AD4- placing it under the break pedal. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If we really get technical here it's not pressure sensitive we want. +ADw-br+AD4- I once tried a car (think it was Citroen many years back) which had a +ADw-br+AD4- pressure sensitive break pedal - breaking force was proportional to +ADw-br+AD4- the force applied to the pedal but the pedal didn't move+ACEAIQAh- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It was +ADw-br+AD4- like pressing a brick wall and was absolutely horrible+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So I guess we +ADw-br+AD4- really are talking about a combination of increasing pressure and +ADw-br+AD4- movement. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Mikko Harjula +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-SQ Consulting Oy +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- If you email me from a +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- On all steering and pedal systems +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I have tried, the pedals travel determines the amount of brakes applied. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-However, the real thing is a pressure sensitive thing (you knew that, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-didn't you?). I think it should be possible to make a pressure sensitive +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-device for a race sim controller. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Has anyone any experience with this? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-ECCI have a new feature for the CDS4000 wheel/pedals that does just +ADw-br+AD4- this. I have it fitted as an upgrade to me pedal set which I received +ADw-br+AD4- a week ago. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The brake is pressure sensitive and you really need to stomp on it +ADw-br+AD4- near the limit of its travel. It's also apparently further adjustable +ADw-br+AD4- with additional upgrades, but the pressure required means that you'll +ADw-br+AD4- need to fix the pedals to the ground. Considering the size and weight +ADw-br+AD4- of these beauties already, this is quite something. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I've been getting used to it for the past week, gradually calibrating +ADw-br+AD4- in more and more pressure (after a few years of use of a normal spring +ADw-br+AD4- travel pedals I had trouble adjusting to this feature initially), and +ADw-br+AD4- frankly, it's awesome. Being able to +ACo-feel+ACo- the brakes almost, and +ADw-br+AD4- know when you're about to lock the wheels in GPL is a stunning thing +ADw-br+AD4- that I've gradually come to appreciate as I've become used to it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-GPL demands excellence to drive well. The CDS4000 provides excellence +ADw-br+AD4- of input. It's now just the driver that lets my lap times down+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Stuart +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Stuart Booth +ADw-br+AD4- Somewhere in Buckinghamshire, England, UK +ADw-br+AD4-
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The brake pedal I have designed for my u its incorporates and +ADw-br+AD4- two stage braking setup. +ADw-br+AD4- First half of pedal travel gives light braking (0-20+ACU-). At +ADw-br+AD4- this point the pedal becomes harder to press and the last half +ADw-br+AD4- travel gives 20-100+ACU- braking. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Both stages are progressive. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Redline Race Controls +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4- Nascar Coruba +ACY-amp+ADs- Coke Chevy +ADw-br+AD4- Hamilton +ADw-br+AD4- New Zealand +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Nope, that's not good enough for me. I wan't brakes like in the real car: +ADw-br+AD4- When applied down to the +ACY-quot+ADs-contact+ACY-quot+ADs- - no brake effect. When +ACY-quot+ADs-contact+ACY-quot+ADs- - brake +ADw-br+AD4- effect directly after pressure, no movement+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I have of course considered several methods of using thresholds in order to +ADw-br+AD4- get more info from the pedal (and not relying on muscle memory), but it will +ADw-br+AD4- never be right... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4----Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Has anyone any experience with this? Has anyone made their own pressure +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-sensitive thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- The brake pedal I have designed for my u its incorporates and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- two stage braking setup. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- First half of pedal travel gives light braking (0-20+ACU-). At +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- this point the pedal becomes harder to press and the last half +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- travel gives 20-100+ACU- braking. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Both stages are progressive. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Redline Race Controls +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Nascar Coruba +ACY-amp+ADs- Coke Chevy +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Hamilton +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- New Zealand +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I already know that the HyperStimulator has a pressure sensitive braking +ADw-br+AD4- device. It doesn't mean I'm going to buy a HyperStim. I'm looking for +ADw-br+AD4- do-it-yourself material+ADs- methods, transducers, amplifying circuits etc... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Besides, I like to be able to make my race car controller just the way I +ADw-br+AD4- want, this is the most important piece of equipment of my racing rig... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4----Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-A normal brake pedal is quite pressure sensitive, although servos create a little +ADw-br+AD4- travel, in a matter of millimeters... The brake setup on race cars employs seldom +ADw-br+AD4- servos, and this means the brake pedal has next to no travel when the braking +ADw-br+AD4- surfaces are in contact. Remember, hydraulics are used, the brake fluid doesn't +ADw-br+AD4- compress at all, so the hydraulic pressure braking system is per definition +ADw-br+AD4- pressure sensitive+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The brakes of a race car should be efficient, not comfortable+ACE- If a race car brake +ADw-br+AD4- travels when you brake, it's time for a pitstop to find the leak... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4----Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- You might try looking for an inexpensive strain gauge. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Someone else in this ng. suggested making a cut in a tennis ball and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- placing it under the break pedal. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- If we really get technical here it's not pressure sensitive we want. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- I once tried a car (think it was Citroen many years back) which had a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- pressure sensitive break pedal - breaking force was proportional to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- the force applied to the pedal but the pedal didn't move+ACEAIQAh- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It was +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- like pressing a brick wall and was absolutely horrible+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So I guess we +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- really are talking about a combination of increasing pressure and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- movement. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- -- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Mikko Harjula +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-SQ Consulting Oy +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- If you email me from a +ADw-br+AD4-
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Maybe I didn't explain problerly. On these units the first +ADw-br+AD4- 10mm of pedal travel offers up to 30+ACU- braking(Slows the car +ADw-br+AD4- without chucking the weight around too much). The remainder of +ADw-br+AD4- the pedal travel becomes harder to press and from there the +ADw-br+AD4- brakes are very effective for heavy braking. It gives the user +ADw-br+AD4- feedback of the amount of braking they are applying to try and +ADw-br+AD4- give some feel for the lack of G-force in the sim. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Nigel +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Redline Race Controls +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4- Nascar Coruba +ACY-amp+ADs- Coke Chevy +ADw-br+AD4- Hamilton +ADw-br+AD4- New Zealand +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I don't see that as an especially great difficulty. A cone shaped +ACoAKgAq- +ADw-br+AD4- bumper behind the pedal, and a strain gauge ought to the trick. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Hmmm. I have a 27+ACY-quot+ADs- Magnavox sitting here unused, and a go-kart seat -- +ADw-br+AD4- chassis and all, too -- in the garage. I wonder if I can do anything +ADw-br+AD4- with that... Hmmmm... Can't decide if I want to put a pot on the +ADw-br+AD4- steering column, or just find a place to mount the MS FF. (What a waste +ADw-br+AD4- of a perfectly good chassis. Gotta move the pool table, too. :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Michael. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Nope, that's not good enough for me. I wan't brakes like in the real car: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- When applied down to the +ACY-quot+ADs-contact+ACY-quot+ADs- - no brake effect. When +ACY-quot+ADs-contact+ACY-quot+ADs- - brake +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- effect directly after pressure, no movement+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I have of course considered several methods of using thresholds in order to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- get more info from the pedal (and not relying on muscle memory), but it will +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- never be right... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- ---Asgeir--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Has anyone any experience with this? Has anyone made their own pressure +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-sensitive thing? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- The brake pedal I have designed for my u its incorporates and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- two stage braking setup. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- First half of pedal travel gives light braking (0-20+ACU-). At +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- this point the pedal becomes harder to press and the last half +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- travel gives 20-100+ACU- braking. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Both stages are progressive. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Redline Race Controls +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Nascar Coruba +ACY-amp+ADs- Coke Chevy +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Hamilton +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- New Zealand +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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