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+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Where ya been??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've been talking about Papyrus not getting the +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-rights to the logos weeks ago... you can replace that +ACoAKgAq-in 5 minutes. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Jon +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-ORSA http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/orsa +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-JEG Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/jeg +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-SuperPatch Central+ACE- http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-That's fine and dandy and all....but why is everyone being blinded by their +ADw-br+AD4- lust for Papyrus? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is +ACo-cheap+ACo- for Sierra/Papyrus to take the lame way out +ADw-br+AD4- and name them +ACI-chassis 1, 2, and 3+ACI-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yeah, we can download the real makes +ADw-br+AD4- on the net, but what about those without net access? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Guys, I love Papy as +ADw-br+AD4- much as the rest of you all, but this is a very, VERY cheap impression that +ADw-br+AD4- Sierra/Papyrus has made on me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe that they would ship a +ADw-br+AD4- Nascar SIMULATION, without the car makes. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That's 1980's +ACoAKgAq-there plain +ADw-br+AD4- and simple. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe you guys would think otherwise. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- Cheap. Cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- We as customers have shelled out Lord knows how much money to make +ADw-br+AD4- Nascar2 one of the best selling games of all time, and kept the game in or +ADw-br+AD4- near the list of top 10 games for the past 2 years. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've spent money on a +ADw-br+AD4- Busch Expansion Pack, some of have spent money on the +ACI-50th anniversary+ACI- +ADw-br+AD4- edition. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(just a repacked N2 with GNS....and a fancy shiny box) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Now most +ADw-br+AD4- of us are spending money on a +ACI-1999 edition+ACI- (just N2, GNS, and CTS.....and +ADw-br+AD4- a fancy, shiny new box). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So most of us have loyally backed Papyrus and +ADw-br+AD4- their +ACI-repackaging+ACI- of the same game for the past two years.....and after +ADw-br+AD4- all of this loyalty, they go out and won't pay for the same licenses that +ADw-br+AD4- they owned in the first place+ACEAIQAhACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Come on guys, are we seriously +ADw-br+AD4- defending Sierra/Papy for leaving out car makes in the 1999 edition? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How +ADw-br+AD4- about when N3 comes out that we have no car sponsorships, no track name, and +ADw-br+AD4- no car makes.....would we still defend Sierra/Papy? +ADw-br+AD4- We'd all be racing at the +ACI-Alabama Speedway+ACI- while driving the +ACI-Clip 'em +ADw-br+AD4- Lawn Service+ACI- car, which of course would be +ACI-Chassis +ACM-2+ACI-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But of course, we +ADw-br+AD4- all still love the game to no end right? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's still the best damn +ADw-br+AD4- simulation ever made right? +ADw-br+AD4- Would computer sports gamers accept a sports game by EASports that didn't +ADw-br+AD4- have Real Teams and Real Players? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Back in the 80's, they used to make games +ADw-br+AD4- like that and called the teams the +ACI-New York Apples+ACI- and the +ACI-Utah +ADw-br+AD4- Silver-Dollars+ACI-, but that kind of stuff doesn't fly in the 90's. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Again, I love this sim as much as the rest of ya'll. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And race it day +ADw-br+AD4- and night like the rest of ya'll. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But I refuse to accept Sierra/Papy taking +ADw-br+AD4- the cheap way out. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I take it as a shot to all of us, and to all of the +ADw-br+AD4- money we've spent, and to all the loyalty we've shown. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I kinda agree, only in that I/we should have paid MUCH less money for +ADw-br+AD4- this game if Papy didn't spend the money on the licenses. They shove +ADw-br+AD4- this +ACY-quot+ADs-We will save alot of money if we don't add the licenses to the +ADw-br+AD4- game+ACY-quot+ADs- BS down our throats, then turn around and STILL charge +ACQ-45.00 +ADw-br+AD4- for the damn game. For my +ACQ-45.00, I want it all baby+ACE- No short cuts, +ADw-br+AD4- no skimping on anything. Well, I didn't get it................... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Of course, I will proceed to d/l the latest WC car set from the +ADw-br+AD4- internet. Kudos to you guys who do these cars.............You are the +ADw-br+AD4- ones that should get a cut of that +ACQ-45.00 from Papy/+ACQ-ierra, those +ADw-br+AD4- tight-asses. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Todd +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Where ya been??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've been talking about Papyrus not getting the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-rights to the logos weeks ago... you can replace that +ACoAKgAq-in 5 minutes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Jon +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-ORSA http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/orsa +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-JEG Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/jeg +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-SuperPatch Central+ACE- http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-That's fine and dandy and all....but why is everyone being blinded by their +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-lust for Papyrus? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is +ACo-cheap+ACo- for Sierra/Papyrus to take the lame way out +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and name them +ACI-chassis 1, 2, and 3+ACI-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yeah, we can download the real makes +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-on the net, but what about those without net access? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Guys, I love Papy as +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-much as the rest of you all, but this is a very, VERY cheap impression that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Sierra/Papyrus has made on me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe that they would ship a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nascar SIMULATION, without the car makes. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That's 1980's +ACoAKgAq-there plain +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and simple. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe you guys would think otherwise. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Cheap. Cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We as customers have shelled out Lord knows how much money to make +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nascar2 one of the best selling games of all time, and kept the game in or +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-near the list of top 10 games for the past 2 years. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've spent money on a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Busch Expansion Pack, some of have spent money on the +ACI-50th anniversary+ACI- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-edition. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(just a repacked N2 with GNS....and a fancy shiny box) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Now most +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-of us are spending money on a +ACI-1999 edition+ACI- (just N2, GNS, and CTS.....and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-a fancy, shiny new box). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So most of us have loyally backed Papyrus and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-their +ACI-repackaging+ACI- of the same game for the past two years.....and after +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-all of this loyalty, they go out and won't pay for the same licenses that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-they owned in the first place+ACEAIQAhACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Come on guys, are we seriously +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-defending Sierra/Papy for leaving out car makes in the 1999 edition? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-about when N3 comes out that we have no car sponsorships, no track name, and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-no car makes.....would we still defend Sierra/Papy? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-We'd all be racing at the +ACI-Alabama Speedway+ACI- while driving the +ACI-Clip 'em +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Lawn Service+ACI- car, which of course would be +ACI-Chassis +ACM-2+ACI-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But of course, we +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-all still love the game to no end right? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's still the best damn +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-simulation ever made right? +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Would computer sports gamers accept a sports game by EASports that didn't +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-have Real Teams and Real Players? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Back in the 80's, they used to make games +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-like that and called the teams the +ACI-New York Apples+ACI- and the +ACI-Utah +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Silver-Dollars+ACI-, but that kind of stuff doesn't fly in the 90's. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Again, I love this sim as much as the rest of ya'll. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And race it day +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and night like the rest of ya'll. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But I refuse to accept Sierra/Papy taking +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the cheap way out. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I take it as a shot to all of us, and to all of the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-money we've spent, and to all the loyalty we've shown. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgB8-Of course, I will proceed to d/l the latest WC car set from the +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-internet. Kudos to you guys who do these cars.............You are the +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-ones that should get a cut of that +ACQ-45.00 from Papy/+ACQ-ierra, those +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-tight-asses. +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-Todd +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- That is EXACTLY what I was thinking+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't thank IWCCCARS enough for +ADw-br+AD4- their outstanding artisan work with ALL the series+ACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm planning on making +ADw-br+AD4- some kind of contribution to them soon. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- I bought N1 a month or so after it came out. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Then bought N2 the DAY it +ADw-br+AD4- came out. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Then bought Nas50th several months after it came out (after +ADw-br+AD4- selling N2, it cost me +ACQ-15). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Bought N99 yesterday. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'll buy N3 the DAY it +ADw-br+AD4- comes out, too. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- While I share in the disgust at them using +ACY-quot+ADs-chassis 1, 2 and 3+ACY-quot+ADs-, as long +ADw-br+AD4- as they allow for as much expansion (custom cars) as they have, I'll +ADw-br+AD4- continue to support them. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Don't forget, they just went through a MAJOR +ADw-br+AD4- shakeup and we're lucky N3 survived at ALL+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Now, who has good locations for custom cars AND trucks?+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Don Hancock +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-Gunner+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Greg Cisk+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Greg Cisk+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-While I share in the disgust at them using +ACY-quot+ADs-chassis 1, 2 and 3+ACY-quot+ADs-, as +ADw-br+AD4- long +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-as they allow for as much expansion (custom cars) as they have, I'll +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-So what exactly is wrong with the chassis 1, 2, +ACY-amp+ADs- 3? I thought it +ADw-br+AD4- was a good feature. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-cisko +AFs-AT+AF0- ix +AFs-DOT+AF0- netcom +AFs-DOT+AF0- com +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
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+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Don Hancoc+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Don Hancoc+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-
+AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-While I share in the disgust at them using +ACY-quot+ADs-chassis 1, 2 and 3+ACY-quot+ADs-, as +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-long +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs-as they allow for as much expansion (custom cars) as they have, I'll +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-So what exactly is wrong with the chassis 1, 2, +ACY-amp+ADs- 3? I thought it +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw-was a good feature. +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Kinda takes the glitter out of any inhouse +ACY-quot+ADs-manufacturer's cup+ACY-quot+ADs- race, +ADw-br+AD4- dontcha think? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Some of us tend to follow one manufacturer over another. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- don't care what Papy calls 'em as long as I change 'em IN the game+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Don Hancock +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Greg Cisk+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Greg Cisk+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Kinda takes the glitter out of any inhouse +ACY-quot+ADs-manufacturer's cup+ACY-quot+ADs- race, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-dontcha think? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Some of us tend to follow one manufacturer over another. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Nope. Manufacturer??? Right. It isn't like there are ford or chevy chassis +ADw-br+AD4- or something. They are just modified for downforce (more, neutral and less). +ADw-br+AD4- Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. In fact it seem like an improvement. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-cisko +AFs-AT+AF0- ix +AFs-DOT+AF0- netcom +AFs-DOT+AF0- com +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Tom Store+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Tom Store+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 22 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I have downloaded the CTS Trucks from Sim-Racing. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How do I include them +ADw-br+AD4- into NR1999. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The same goes for a set for Winston Cup and BGN. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Can I +ADw-br+AD4- interchange Car files? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Tom +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Scott Moor+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Scott Moor+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 22 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Onless the CTS trucks are made for NR 1999, the paint jobs are not going to +ADw-br+AD4- work right, due to the different layout of the paint shop. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The WC and BGN cars need to be unzipped to the /cars folder. Just make sure +ADw-br+AD4- you have no more than 128 cars or you won't be able to see them all.... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I have downloaded the CTS Trucks from Sim-Racing. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-How do I include them +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-into NR1999. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The same goes for a set for Winston Cup and BGN. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Can I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-interchange Car files? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Tom +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Howard Anders+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Howard Anders+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I totally agree. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I dont have N99 yet but I will and I think that the +ADw-br+AD4- people that make the cars that are doing it for free should get some +ADw-br+AD4- money and atleast spend some money on the cars at least...of so you dont +ADw-br+AD4- get a few tracks...oh well. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ie.Pocono but who cares. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That makes me mad +ADw-br+AD4- that they dont even spend the money on the licenses for the cars. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-My +ACQ-.02 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Dave +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- online.net says... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgAm-gt+ADs- I kinda agree, only in that I/we should have paid MUCH less money for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- this game if Papy didn't spend the money on the licenses. They shove +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- this +ACY-quot+ADs-We will save alot of money if we don't add the licenses to the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- game+ACY-quot+ADs- BS down our throats, then turn around and STILL charge +ACQ-45.00 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- for the damn game. For my +ACQ-45.00, I want it all baby+ACE- No short cuts, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- no skimping on anything. Well, I didn't get it................... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Of course, I will proceed to d/l the latest WC car set from the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- internet. Kudos to you guys who do these cars.............You are the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- ones that should get a cut of that +ACQ-45.00 from Papy/+ACQ-ierra, those +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- tight-asses. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Todd +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Where ya been??? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've been talking about Papyrus not getting the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-rights to the logos weeks ago... you can replace that +ACoAKgAq-in 5 minutes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Jon +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-ORSA http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/orsa +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-JEG Racing http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan/jeg +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg-SuperPatch Central+ACE- http://www.racesimcentral.net/+AH4-chevyfan +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-That's fine and dandy and all....but why is everyone being blinded by their +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-lust for Papyrus? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is +ACo-cheap+ACo- for Sierra/Papyrus to take the lame way out +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-and name them +ACI-chassis 1, 2, and 3+ACI-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Yeah, we can download the real makes +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-on the net, but what about those without net access? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Guys, I love Papy as +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-much as the rest of you all, but this is a very, VERY cheap impression that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Sierra/Papyrus has made on me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe that they would ship a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nascar SIMULATION, without the car makes. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That's 1980's +ACoAKgAq-there plain +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-and simple. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can't believe you guys would think otherwise. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Cheap. Cheap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We as customers have shelled out Lord knows how much money to make +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nascar2 one of the best selling games of all time, and kept the game in or +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-near the list of top 10 games for the past 2 years. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-We've spent money on a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Busch Expansion Pack, some of have spent money on the +ACI-50th anniversary+ACI- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-edition. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(just a repacked N2 with GNS....and a fancy shiny box) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Now most +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-of us are spending money on a +ACI-1999 edition+ACI- (just N2, GNS, and CTS.....and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-a fancy, shiny new box). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-So most of us have loyally backed Papyrus and +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-their +ACI-repackaging+ACI- of the same game for the past two years.....and after +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-all of this loyalty, they go out and won't pay for the same licenses that +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-they owned in the first place+ACEAIQAhACEAIQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Come on guys, are we seriously +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mike Peterse+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-N99 and NO car makes+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mike Peterse+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I'll take anything you can send+ACE- :) Send it c/o Santa, North Pole... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Truck templates on my page.... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mike (TEN ID:mpete) +ADw-br+AD4- http://www.mnworld.com +ADw-br+AD4- Mike's Nascar World +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I totally agree. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I dont have N99 yet but I will and I think that the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-people that make the cars that are doing it for free should get some +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-money and atleast spend some money on the cars at least...of so you dont +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-get a few tracks...oh well. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Ie.Pocono but who cares. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-That makes me mad +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that they dont even spend the money on the licenses for the cars. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-My +ACQ-.02 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Dave +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- online.net says... +ADw-br+AD4-
Todd +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-hr /+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br/+AD4-
+ADw-p+AD4-1. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/4+AF8-a804f7b834a61b10+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-How many made? and NOS or supercharger?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4-
+ADw-p+AD4-2. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/6+AF8-a825dc16155d8a8a+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-Prices for German-made NOS hood???????+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4-
+ADw-p+AD4-3. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-http://www.racesimcentral.net/6+AF8-45750d31d94b00e2+AF8-1.htm+ACIAPg-VW only makes girl cars (made me laugh)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4-
+ADw-p+AD4-4. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-76ca419ca6e3dca5+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-F1RS: Patches ands Pedals+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4-
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