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+ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I found about a 2fps increase with ICR2 when I switched from 70ns RAM to 60ns +ADw-br+AD4- EDO RAM. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Clark +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I found about a 2fps increase with ICR2 when I switched from 70ns RAM to 60ns +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-EDO RAM. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Clark +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-OK... I have a P133 with 16MB 70ns standard 72 pin RAM. What is the +ADw-br+AD4- difference with EDO? How about from a physical standpoint? When you say +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-switched+ACY-quot+ADs- do you mean that you just swapped the memory on your existing +ADw-br+AD4- board? Is that even possible? Could I add 16MB EDO to my existing system? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-Curious, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Ralph Schwarz, +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-GP2: EDO vs. +ACY-quot+ADs-normal+ACY-quot+ADs- RAM?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Thanks, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- -- +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Tirolintie 2 A 308 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- 90530 OULU +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +358-81-5507134 +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- This is a witty quote. Really. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Hi Vesa, +ADw-br+AD4- It depends on what secondary cache(L2) the motherboard is equipped with+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- Is a +ACY-quot+ADs-cheap+ACY-quot+ADs- asynchronous cache or is the motherboard equipped with a +ADw-br+AD4- more +ACY-quot+ADs-expensive+ACY-quot+ADs- synchronous cache? Its a matter of wait-states+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- The best is to have both(EDO and Synchron L2 cache)+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- Regards, +ADw-br+AD4- /Rolf +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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I doubt it VERY much because GP2 doesn't really use RAM to make the +ADw-br+AD4- game faster, it's all on the CPU. The RAM is mainly used for storing +ADw-br+AD4- hot laps etc. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-I think the frame-rate increase is due to the drop from 70ns to +ADw-br+AD4- 60ns. I have an option on my computer o change back and fourth between +ADw-br+AD4- EDO and NORMAL in my BIOS, But the head guy I bought it from said it +ADw-br+AD4- wulden't make much differance, +ACY-quot+ADs-you can change it if you want+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---Kai Fuller +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- INR Magazine: +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-http://www.git.net/bretzman/inr.html +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Team Fuller +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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EVERYTHING in the game is held in RAM, and the quicker your CPU can +ADw-br+AD4- access that data, the quicker GP2 (or any program) will operate, EDO-RAM +ADw-br+AD4- is faster than standard DRAM, although there's not much in it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Very few DRAM manufacturers are making standard memory any more, so you +ADw-br+AD4- may have trouble AVOIDING EDO-RAM+ACE- :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- John +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAXwBf- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAXwBfAF8AXwBfAHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AHwAXwBfAF8AXwBf- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAXwBf- +ADw-br+AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwB8- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfABfAF8AfA- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:+AHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- John Wallace +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AHwAXwBfAHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfABfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Thanks, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- -- +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Tirolintie 2 A 308 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- 90530 OULU +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +358-81-5507134 +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- This is a witty quote. Really. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Hi Vesa, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- It depends on what secondary cache(L2) the motherboard is equipped with+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Is a +ACY-quot+ADs-cheap+ACY-quot+ADs- asynchronous cache or is the motherboard equipped with a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- more +ACY-quot+ADs-expensive+ACY-quot+ADs- synchronous cache? Its a matter of wait-states+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- The best is to have both(EDO and Synchron L2 cache)+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- Regards, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- /Rolf +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I can't get to the original Vesa Slotte message so I just post it here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Fist of all, I have a P120/256kB PLB-cache/8MBDRAM-+ACY-gt+ADs-16MBEDO/Stealth 64 1MBDRAM. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-After I got GP2 I found the fps-rate pretty annoying. At that time I had 8MB DRAM. +ADw-br+AD4- Because I wanted to get WIN95 anyway, I immediately went out to get 16MB EDO RAM +ADw-br+AD4- (and found the right place for it, I saved HFL 170,- (+ACQ-100,-) by calling around +ADw-br+AD4- first). +ADw-br+AD4- After I installed the stuff, the first thing to try was GP2 (what's more important +ADw-br+AD4- ...right?). That was some disappointment. No difference. But than I saw the light +ADw-br+AD4- (well...I hoped so). The DRAM I had was 70nsec, the EDO is 60 nsec, so timing +ADw-br+AD4- could be faster. And since I can change RAM-timing in my BIOS.... (BTW it's +ADw-br+AD4- probably not possible in every BIOS, but in most). +ADw-br+AD4- Most timing-settings were at maximum, I decided to put them all at minimum (No +ADw-br+AD4- pain no gain). In cases like this I always test by starting Windows (3.11 at this +ADw-br+AD4- moment), if Windows runs fine you can be pretty damn sure anything else will run +ADw-br+AD4- great. And it did (and does). +ADw-br+AD4- So back to GP2. I tried and found the processor-oc. about 8+ACU- lower (with the same +ADw-br+AD4- options at the same place (pits) at the same track ofcourse, 96+ACU- instead of 104+ACU-). +ADw-br+AD4- Happy me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW I also downloaded S3SPDUP wich gave me a pretty good boost. (it's only for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- video-cards with S3 processor, like mine: Stealth 64 1MB DRAM). My processor- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- oc. went down about 12+ACU- (Again with the same options in the pits at the same +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- track +AHs-Monaco?....OH YEAH Monaco). +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- I heard it doesn't work with all S3 card's though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- If you want to try it, you can download it from : +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- http://wwwmath.uni-muenster.de/+AH4-mesched/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- For SVGA-mode start the driver with S3SPDUP VESA +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- For VGA-mode start with S3SPDUP VGA +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- And to anyone who wonders how such a link is put in a message : simply type +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- it in your text, it turns into a link by itself (ok...the software does that). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW I also tried overclocking to 133MHz, but my CPU can't handle it. Damn+ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Dreammaster rules again +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I doubt it VERY much because GP2 doesn't really use RAM to make the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-game faster, it's all on the CPU. The RAM is mainly used for storing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-hot laps etc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Vesa, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-As a general rule EDO RAM plus Sync-burst pipeline cache is much faster +ADw-br+AD4- than normal DRAM. Just make sure that when you upgrade, it is to a 'triton' +ADw-br+AD4- chipset MB with 256K Sync-burst pipeline cache. Then you can use the EDO +ACY-amp+ADs- get +ADw-br+AD4- full benefiet from it. Putting EDO in a normal MB probably wouldn't do much +ADw-br+AD4- compared to normal DRAM. But using EDO with the sync-burst cache will have +ADw-br+AD4- a big performance gain. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I think the frame-rate increase is due to the drop from 70ns to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-60ns. I have an option on my computer o change back and fourth between +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-EDO and NORMAL in my BIOS, But the head guy I bought it from said it +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-wulden't make much differance, +ACY-quot+ADs-you can change it if you want+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I have a triton II 430HX chipset board (THE performance chipset, if +ADw-br+AD4- you believe the hype) and I could only afford 16mb EDo to put in it. I +ADw-br+AD4- benchmarked the video performance with various utils before sticking +ADw-br+AD4- another 8mb of FPM RAM in to make 24mb total. I set the BIOS to FPM +ADw-br+AD4- timings and benchmarked again - zippo difference. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-In the end, no combination of EDO and/or FPM RAM had any effect at all +ADw-br+AD4- on frame rates. Just my experiance but I'd say don't get your hopes up +ADw-br+AD4- guys..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-- +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-I doubt it VERY much because GP2 doesn't really use RAM to make the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-game faster, it's all on the CPU. The RAM is mainly used for storing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-hot laps etc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-eh??? +ADw-br+AD4- Now there's a unique theory+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Michael E. Carv+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +ACY-gt+ADs-I'm planning to upgrade my 486/66 into a P133, and I'd like to know if +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs-using EDO RAM would make any difference in framerates? The price +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs-difference isn't that big, but it's a few pints o' beer anyway... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: I doubt it VERY much because GP2 doesn't really use RAM to make the +ADw-br+AD4- : game faster, it's all on the CPU. The RAM is mainly used for storing +ADw-br+AD4- : hot laps etc. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This reply is rather ill-informed. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-There is a correlation between CPU +ADw-br+AD4- performance and RAM performance. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Be real, the CPU has to use RAM to +ADw-br+AD4- store the instructions to run the game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-As others have pointed out, there is no yes/no answer to the posters +ADw-br+AD4- question. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-First, how is Vesa gonna upgrade his 486 into a P133. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What +ADw-br+AD4- type of motherboard is he going to use (will it take full advantage of +ADw-br+AD4- EDO RAM)? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What size L2 cache will he have and what kind (a 512 cache +ADw-br+AD4- can increase CPU performance on a 133 by 7+ACU-). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What BIOS will be on the +ADw-br+AD4- machine (will he be able to tweak memory speeds/timing)? +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-In other words, there is no easy answer to the question. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-However, if +ADw-br+AD4- his motherboard fully supports EDO-RAM, I would say that a few pints o' +ADw-br+AD4- beer are well worth going for EDO-RAM. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Now if the price was a keg o' +ADw-br+AD4- beer.... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- Michael E. Carver +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACo- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- OK... I have a P133 with 16MB 70ns standard 72 pin RAM. What is the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-difference with EDO? How about from a physical standpoint? When you say +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-quot+ADs-switched+ACY-quot+ADs- do you mean that you just swapped the memory on your existing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-board? Is that even possible? Could I add 16MB EDO to my existing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-system? +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-lt+ADsAJg-lt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-It depends on if your mother board supports it (edo ram). Take a look at +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-its documentation. If it does support, just snap them in and you're +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-done. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I changed my P133 from 60ns standard ram to 60ns EDO ram and the gplog.txt file +ADw-br+AD4- didn't change a bit. I used another benchmark test, and it showed no improvment +ADw-br+AD4- either. I also added extra Pipeline Burst cache, was 256 now 512, and computer +ADw-br+AD4- seems to run a little better in windows, but again, no change in gplog.txt +ADw-br+AD4- file. Just an +ACY-quot+ADs-informal+ACY-quot+ADs- test, though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Craig Marcho +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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