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.. +ADw-br+AD4- .. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The lobby most responsible for lowering the limits was the +ACY-quot+ADs-save fuel+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- .. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-contingency of the late 70's. Remember the phony gas crisis that was +ADw-br+AD4- .. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-used to raise prices and lower the speed limit? +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- .The OPEC oil embargo of 1973 was very, very real. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Not to the extent which it was used as a level to raise prices. Not +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- when you come out of work one day and there are gas lines 15 deep +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- that formed on the spur of the moment. +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- .(Of course, when OPEC +ACo-lifted+ACo- the embargo and U.S. gasoline prices +ADw-br+AD4- .+ACo-stayed+ACo- high, that's another story.) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It was actually a huge part of the same story. +ADw-br+AD4- OPEC is not the world's only producer of oil- at that time- the USSR +ADw-br+AD4- was just as big. In fact, a seldom-reported fact was that the Reagan +ADw-br+AD4- administration successfully lobbied OPEC to change their oil prices, +ADw-br+AD4- undercutting those of the USSR. For every +ACQ-1 decrease in the price of +ADw-br+AD4- barrel of oil, the USSR to approximately a +ACQ-1 billion dollar hit. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-. +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- .-- +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Any legislators reading this, how about adding serious jail time to the +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-penalty for driving without insurance? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Maybe incarceration in a prison +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-with lots of big ugly felons would make an impression on Matthew+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0- +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0AJg-gt+ADs-Yeah+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Let's start filling our already crowded prisons with people who +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0AJg-gt+ADs-don't have car insurance+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Those are REAL criminals+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-Last year I was hit by an uninsured driver. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-My insurance was around +ACQ-3000 short of the actual repair cost for my car. +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0-Because +AF8-his+AF8- only income is federal aid, I have no monetary recourse. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-My face was also nicely rearranged by my steering wheel, resulting in +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0-two dozen stitches to put my lip back together and several weeks of +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0-excruciating pain. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-Had he stolen +ACQ-3000 in cash from me, that's grand theft. +ADw-br+AD4- : +AH0-Had he physically beaten me with his fist, that's +ACoAKgAq-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-Both punishable by jail time. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-Because he used a car, it's a suspended license. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Because it was negligence and not willful misconduct, it wasn't a +ADw-br+AD4- : criminal offense and there's no jail time. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Had he deliberately hit +ADw-br+AD4- : you with his car, it would have been +ACoAKgAq- with a deadly weapon and +ADw-br+AD4- : he could have gone to jail. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Even if he could afford to pay for the damage. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-You show me where the justice is in that. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: There ain't no justice. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-With insurance costs being what they are, there +ADw-br+AD4- : can be no justice. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-When I drove uninsured, it was because I couldn't +ADw-br+AD4- : find a company willing to write me -- I was dumped into the +ACoAKgAq-ly +ADw-br+AD4- : expensive high-risk pool. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +AH0-Then you can tell me driving without insurance isn't criminal. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Of course it is criminal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The state defines it as such. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But when I +ADw-br+AD4- : was driving without insurance, I didn't hit anyone. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Were I to hit +ADw-br+AD4- : someone now, most likely their repair bill would exceed my insurance +ADw-br+AD4- : limit (+ACQ-5000). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-His bodily injury would not be in any way reduced +ADw-br+AD4- : because I have insurance. +ADw-br+AD4- : -- +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-quot+ADs-Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit +ADw-br+AD4- : of justice is no virtue.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And do you have resources to make up the difference? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If not, why are you +ADw-br+AD4- driving? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It is the height of irresponsibility to drive around without +ADw-br+AD4- the means to take car of any accidents you cause. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Sorry, it's not. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Evil laws are ones like segregation and slavery. To +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-suggest a speed limit law is evil is ludicrous+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- While I hate the speed limit laws, I have to agree with +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Lloyd here. +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs- Stupid and useless yes, evil, no. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Depends where you live, we used to have fines that +ACo-started+ACo- at +ACQ-350, I'd +ADw-br+AD4- : call that pretty evil. How about +ACQ-512 for no front plate, +ACQ-89-Jaywalking. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And you're equating that with slavery or segregation? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Or the laws +ADw-br+AD4- regarding Jews in Nazi Germany? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Do you have any idea what +ACY-quot+ADs-evil+ACY-quot+ADs- means? +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- It doesn't mean your pocketbook is lighter for breaking a law+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It means +ADw-br+AD4- loss of human rights or your life. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: (BIG SNIP) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: +ACY-gt+ADs-Any legislators reading this, how about adding serious jail time to the +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs-penalty for driving without insurance? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Maybe incarceration in a prison +ADw-br+AD4- : +ACY-gt+ADs-with lots of big ugly felons would make an impression on Matthew+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Yeah+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Let's start filling our already crowded prisons with people who +ADw-br+AD4- : don't have car insurance+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Those are REAL criminals+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Mark Brauer +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Crunched 1973 SAAB Sonett III +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-They are. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If you hit me and don't have insurance, who pays for my damage +ADw-br+AD4- and injuries? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I do. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Either directly if I don't have uninsured motorist +ADw-br+AD4- insurance, or indirectly if I do. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-People who can't take responsibility +ADw-br+AD4- for their potential actions should not be allowed to drive. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Simple. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Brian varin+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 12 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Sorry, it's not. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Evil laws are ones like segregation and slavery. To +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- : +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-suggest a speed limit law is evil is ludicrous+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- : +ACY-gt+ADs- While I hate the speed limit laws, I have to agree with +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Lloyd here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- : +ACY-gt+ADs- Stupid and useless yes, evil, no. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- : Depends where you live, we used to have fines that +ACo-started+ACo- at +ACQ-350, I'd +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- : call that pretty evil. How about +ACQ-512 for no front plate, +ACQ-89-Jaywalking. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- And you're equating that with slavery or segregation? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Or the laws +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- regarding Jews in Nazi Germany? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Do you have any idea what +ACY-quot+ADs-evil+ACY-quot+ADs- means? +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- It doesn't mean your pocketbook is lighter for breaking a law+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It means +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- loss of human rights or your life. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Lets see here +ACQ-512, thats more than a months rent, I call that pretty evil. +ADw-br+AD4- But, hey, I could always plead down to possession of a controlled +ADw-br+AD4- substance(less than an ounce), it's only +ACQ-250. So, your a guy whos +ADw-br+AD4- married and 2 kids busting his +ACoAKgAq-to make that +ACo-massive+ACo- +ACQ-8.00 and +ADw-br+AD4- hour. Some+ACoAKgAq-head city runs speedtraps and soaks this guy for +ACQ-500. He +ADw-br+AD4- now must work a +ACo-minimum+ACo- of 62.5 Hrs because I'm using +ACQ-8 before taxes. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- This guy is a slave of the damn city. +ACQ-50 is reasonable, +ACQ-150 is not. +ADw-br+AD4- Outrageous fines are evil. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mark Braue+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 12 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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It seems this sad tale only goes to prove my point that compulsory +ADw-br+AD4- insurance laws should be abolished. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Obviously, it didn't help you. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It +ADw-br+AD4- makes everyone pay more, and bumps those on the edge of affordability +ADw-br+AD4- into being uninsured, and criminals. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mark Brauer +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Crunched 1973 SAAB Sonett III (The ultimate snow car, but +ADw-br+AD4- where's the snow?) +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p82+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Bill Edis+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- .. : . .Sorry, it's not. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Evil laws are ones like segregation and slavery. To +ADw-br+AD4- .. : . .suggest a speed limit law is evil is ludicrous+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- .. : . While I hate the speed limit laws, I have to agree with +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Lloyd here. +ADw-br+AD4- .. : . Stupid and useless yes, evil, no. +ADw-br+AD4- .. +ADw-br+AD4- .. : Depends where you live, we used to have fines that +ACo-started+ACo- at +ACQ-350, I'd +ADw-br+AD4- .. : call that pretty evil. How about +ACQ-512 for no front plate, +ACQ-89-Jaywalking. +ADw-br+AD4- .. +ADw-br+AD4- .. And you're equating that with slavery or segregation? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Or the laws +ADw-br+AD4- .. regarding Jews in Nazi Germany? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Do you have any idea what +ACY-quot+ADs-evil+ACY-quot+ADs- means? +ADw-br+AD4- .. It doesn't mean your pocketbook is lighter for breaking a law+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It means +ADw-br+AD4- .. loss of human rights or your life. +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- .Lets see here +ACQ-512, thats more than a months rent, I call that pretty evil. +ADw-br+AD4- .But, hey, I could always plead down to possession of a controlled +ADw-br+AD4- .substance(less than an ounce), it's only +ACQ-250. So, your a guy whos +ADw-br+AD4- .married and 2 kids busting his +ACoAKgAq-to make that +ACo-massive+ACo- +ACQ-8.00 and +ADw-br+AD4- .hour. Some+ACoAKgAq-head city runs speedtraps and soaks this guy for +ACQ-500. He +ADw-br+AD4- .now must work a +ACo-minimum+ACo- of 62.5 Hrs because I'm using +ACQ-8 before taxes. +ADw-br+AD4- .This guy is a slave of the damn city. +ACQ-50 is reasonable, +ACQ-150 is not. +ADw-br+AD4- .Outrageous fines are evil. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-No- they're designed to be a disincentive and they've been around more +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-than long enough for everyone to know they exist. The guy who is married +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-and making +ACQ-8 an hour is already a dummy to try and raise 2 kids on +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-THAT salary. He's a+ACoAKgAq-head if he piles +ACY-nbsp+ADs-speeding tickets on top of it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Too bad the +ACY-quot+ADs-damn city+ACY-quot+ADs- forced him to speed. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Bill Edison +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p83+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Clive Parso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Sorry, but your desire to go 100 mph has nothing to do with morality+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-Nor does your desire that people not drive 100 mph... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- if not... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-etc. etc. etc... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Continue to insert quote after quote after quote just to make sure it's sunk in... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-lt+ADs-Er... snip+ACEAIQAhACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Nothing personal to anyone here who's contributed to this drawn-out discussion, +ADw-br+AD4- but I seem to remember a lot of people getting agitated about these crazy +ADw-br+AD4- crosspostings before Christmas time... Er, I see it's still going on then. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I mean, you'd think these spewing cross-posters would have been mail-bombed +ADw-br+AD4- off this +AF8-simulators+AF8- newsgroup weeks ago... what went wrong??? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-- cooler +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Robert W Curre+ADw-/dt+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p84+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Robert W Curre+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-OK, this is a totally anoying thread. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I keep seeing it and seeing it, so I finally read it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Titaled +ACY-quot+ADs-Cops that Tailgate+ACY-quot+ADs- posted in the +ACY-quot+ADs-rec.autos.4x4+ACY-quot+ADs- newsgroup and +ADw-br+AD4- I read 21 POSTS+ACEAIQAhACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Not one mentioned cops tailgating that I saw, and +ADw-br+AD4- with the possable exception of one guy talking about driving off a cliff +ADw-br+AD4- at 100 miles an hour, I didn't see any off road merit to the whole thing. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Isn't there an alt.auto.insurance thread you can take this discussion +ADw-br+AD4- that I find absoutly as exciting as +ACY-quot+ADs-what day as trash day at your +ADw-br+AD4- house+ACY-quot+ADs- to? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If there isn't a alt.auto.insurance group, this thread sure +ADw-br+AD4- is an indication there should be, I doesn't belong here in my opinion. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p85+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Brent Mort+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 14 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Please check your posting.. We really don't give a +ACoAKgAq- about this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-subject in +ACY-nbsp+ADs-rec.autos.simulators And it's been spamed to us enough+ACEAIQAhACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-speaking of spamming, stop posting the same message over and over, +ADw-br+AD4- dumdum. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p86+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Reid Guthr+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 20 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-Nice to see that all these folks who are too poor to afford insurance can +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-all afford internet service providers. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-An ISP costs somewhere around +ACQ-10-+ACQ-30/month (depending where you are, the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-amount of competition in the area, type of account, etc). Insurance costs +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJA-200/month or even more for some people. You get your money's worth for the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-ISP, while many people have never collected a dime on their insurance. And +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-if they ever +ACo-did+ACo- get their money's worth from their insurance, they'd +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-either be dropped or see their rates raise even more. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Hear+ACE- Hear+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Insurance is a big scam if you ask me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The government +ADw-br+AD4- requires that you have it, so it's basically a free for all for the +ADw-br+AD4- insurance companies. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If the companies had to convince us it was worth +ADw-br+AD4- the money and then prove it via reasonable prices (the equivalent of a +ADw-br+AD4- car payment for something we hope to never use is unreasonable), good +ADw-br+AD4- service (competent claims handlers), and a product that does what it's +ADw-br+AD4- supposed to do (pay for the damages without 2 years of hassles and +ADw-br+AD4- lawyer fees) we'd all be better off. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Of course, I've never been hit +ADw-br+AD4- by a driver without insurance, so my perspective may be a bit naive. +ADw-br+AD4- My mother, sister and fiancee, on the other hand, were all hit by +ADw-br+AD4- insured drivers and still got screwed even after retaining attorneys +ADw-br+AD4- to make sure they got a fair settlement. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p87+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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Check again mandatory insurance in most states was inacted by conservative +ADw-br+AD4- politicians on the urging (+ACQAJAAk-) or their well heeled supporters who own +ADw-br+AD4- interests in the insurance industry. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Frankie V. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Robert Berus +ADw-/dt+AD4-
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+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p88+ACIAPg-Cops That Tailgate (Was: Cars that Get Stopped)+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Robert Berus +ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 24 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-RG+ACY-gt+ADs-Hear+ACE- Hear+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Insurance is a big scam if you ask me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The government +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-requires that you have it, so it's basically a free for all for the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-insurance companies. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If the companies had to convince us it was worth +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-the money and then prove it via reasonable prices (the equivalent of a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-car payment for something we hope to never use is unreasonable), good +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Is it? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Scenario: +ACY-nbsp+ADs-you go left of center, hit a car, kill 2 people and +ADw-br+AD4- injure a 3rd. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-You're responsible for funeral and hospital expenses. +ADw-br+AD4- Now, if you're gonna end up with a million in expenses to pay, you've can't +ADw-br+AD4- afford that. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Now maybe +ACQ-2500 a year (that's if your a bad driver, mine is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACQ-587 with 3 cars, 1 a '75 vette, and I'm only 18, driving 4 months +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs-). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAKg- TLX v4.10 +ACo- Asphault +AD0- Proctologist's malpractice insurance +ADw-br+AD4- --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAKg- OLX 2.2 TD +ACo- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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: +ACY-gt+ADs-insurance requirement is a liberal/socialist plot +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Check again mandatory insurance in most states was inacted by conservative +ADw-br+AD4- : politicians on the urging (+ACQAJAAk-) or their well heeled supporters who own +ADw-br+AD4- : interests in the insurance industry. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-: Frankie V. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-If the conservatives as you say +ACY-quot+ADs-inacted+ACY-quot+ADs- mandatory insurance then I, as +ADw-br+AD4- a proud conservative, applaud them. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Really, what's wrong with enacting mandatory insurance? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Would you rather +ADw-br+AD4- be hit by some uninsured motorist? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What does this really have to do with +ADw-br+AD4- conservatives vs. liberals anyway? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-John Calabro +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Matthew T. Russot+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 27 Jan 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-: +ACY-gt+ADs-insurance requirement is a liberal/socialist plot +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0- +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-: Check again mandatory insurance in most states was inacted by conservative +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-: politicians on the urging (+ACQAJAAk-) or their well heeled supporters who own +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-: interests in the insurance industry. +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0- +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-: Frankie V. +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0- +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-If the conservatives as you say +ACY-quot+ADs-inacted+ACY-quot+ADs- mandatory insurance then I, as +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-a proud conservative, applaud them. +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0- +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-Really, what's wrong with enacting mandatory insurance? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Would you rather +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-be hit by some uninsured motorist? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-What does this really have to do with +ADw-br+AD4- +AH0-conservatives vs. liberals anyway? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-It raises the cost of insurance, of bodywork, of parts, etc. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And +ADw-br+AD4- doesn't solve the problem of uninsured motorists. (The local paper +ADw-br+AD4- claims 25+ACU- of SE PA drivers are uninsured) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4-
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