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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I am currently working on collecting complaints, ideas and suggestions +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to then mail a large +ACY-quot+ADs-Indycar upgrade Petition+ACY-quot+ADs- to Papyrus. I am willing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to pay for a new verion of Indycar that fixes the proplems I have +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-found, and adds a few things that were simply left out. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-My pet peeve is that there is no rev limiter on the engine. REAL Indy cars +ADw-br+AD4- have had these for years to keep from blowing up engines, but if you miss a +ADw-br+AD4- shift (damn joystick button is not 100+ACU- reliable) you poof the motor. This is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACo-NOT+ACo- realistic. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-My second peeve has already been mentioned: If I tap the wall or otherwise +ADw-br+AD4- cripple the car, there is no yellow flag. I've put a tire down during a race +ADw-br+AD4- and managed to keep control of the car enough where I can get back to the +ADw-br+AD4- pits, but since there is no yellow I wind up oodles of laps down. My +ADw-br+AD4- workaround to this is to try and take somebody else out with me, since THEN +ADw-br+AD4- the yellow will come out. I have used this to my advantage many times, but +ADw-br+AD4- would much rather just have a more realistic situation where I can get a +ADw-br+AD4- yellow without tagging somebody else. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-My pet peeve is that there is no rev limiter on the engine. REAL Indy cars +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-have had these for years to keep from blowing up engines, but if you miss a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-shift (damn joystick button is not 100+ACU- reliable) you poof the motor. This is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAKg-NOT+ACo- realistic. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Actually, your situation is +ACo-VERY+ACo- realistic. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A rev limiter only works +ADw-br+AD4- with +ACY-quot+ADs-normal+ACY-quot+ADs- engine acceleration +AFs-i.e. foot on throttle, clutch engaged, +ADw-br+AD4- and transmission in gear+AF0-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A missed shift (especially down) is still +ADw-br+AD4- something no rev-limiter on Earth can deal with. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Some sort of scenario labeled as +ACY-quot+ADs-rev-limiting+ACY-quot+ADs- in the pits would be the +ADw-br+AD4- easiest way to impliment a pit road speed limit IMHO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Bill +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqADw-wbr+AD4AKgAqACo- +ADw-br+AD4- Bill Mette +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AHw- +ACY-quot+ADs-People are personally responsible for keeping themselves +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I am currently working on collecting complaints, ideas and suggestions +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to then mail a large +ACY-quot+ADs-Indycar upgrade Petition+ACY-quot+ADs- to Papyrus. I am willing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to pay for a new verion of Indycar that fixes the proplems I have +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-found, and adds a few things that were simply left out. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-How about ability to see whether there's an opponent just beside you. +ADw-br+AD4- How many times have you turned into a corner not realising there's +ADw-br+AD4- someone there? In real life all you have to do is turn your head +ADw-br+AD4- slightly. The mirrors could be split in two so that the inner, larger +ADw-br+AD4- part would function the same way it does now, but the outer part +ADw-br+AD4- would be angled so that you could see 90 degrees left or right. +ADw-br+AD4- It would reduce opponents crashed number tremendeously, at least for me :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Henrikki T. Hakkanen +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-DISCLAIMER: In no event shall I be liable +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- Voice: +358-0-345 5538 +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-my opinions, even if I have been advised of +ADw-br+AD4- Fax: +ACY-nbsp+ADs- don't have one +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- the possibility of such damages. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Brian Wong - SMCC Product Marketing Engineeri+ADw-/dt+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Brian Wong - SMCC Product Marketing Engineeri+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 21 Sep 1994 01:14:43+ADw-/p+AD4-
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Yeah, this would be great. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I had this problem probably 20 times just +ADw-br+AD4- yesterday at Nazareth. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody would come up from behind, then I'd +ADw-br+AD4- look ahead to figure out where to go, and then he'd be GONE... now... +ADw-br+AD4- did he go inside or outside? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-S+ACoAKg-t, can't see him. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Oh well, let's go +ADw-br+AD4- inside+ACY-lt+ADs-CRASH+ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Brian Wong +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Product Marketing Engineering +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-How about ability to see whether there's an opponent just beside you. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-How many times have you turned into a corner not realising there's +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-someone there? In real life all you have to do is turn your head +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-slightly. The mirrors could be split in two so that the inner, larger +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-part would function the same way it does now, but the outer part +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-would be angled so that you could see 90 degrees left or right. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-It would reduce opponents crashed number tremendeously, at least for me :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I'd even go for something like +ACY-lt+ADs-- and -+ACY-gt+ADs- look left/right. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Oh, and could we PLEASE make all the keys remappable? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-F1 and F2 are a LONG +ADw-br+AD4- way from me when I'm using a T1. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The controls are already mostly remappable, but +ADw-br+AD4- some things like the brake bias etc aren't... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Brian Wong +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Product Marketing Engineering +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-AGREED+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- And full course yellows on ovals seem to take too long. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Unless you run 100+ACU- races - the amount of laps one spends under yellow is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-appropriate, but I'd like to see variation (from 2-4 laps) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I dunno, I think that for 1 or 2 car accidents, they are sometimes too long. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Been awhile since I did laguna. Road America my best time is 1:59. Keep +ADw-br+AD4- in mind that because of using the kbd, I can't brake/accelerate and steer +ADw-br+AD4- simultaneously, and because of the response, I think steering in general is +ADw-br+AD4- a little more difficult. I'm having a resource problem that I haven't had +ADw-br+AD4- time to fix to get my joystick working. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-That is the next project, but I haven't had time to take the dang thing apart. +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- ----- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Kevin Coulter +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-quot+ADs-If it don't have wheels, it ain't a sport+ACEAIQAhACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-AT+ACY-amp+ADs-T - Naperville, IL +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-(-Coulter,K.J.) writes: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-...in the case of those of us using the keyboard, carpal tunnel+ACE-)+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-How can you possibly get anything out of this - especially on road courses +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-- using the keyboard instead of a joystick or steering wheel? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Just +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-curious... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Its still a lot of fun, just a little more difficult at times, and it is hard +ADw-br+AD4- on the hands and wrists..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Other than that..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- Kevin +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- ----- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Kevin Coulter +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-quot+ADs-If it don't have wheels, it ain't a sport+ACEAIQAhACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-AT+ACY-amp+ADs-T - Naperville, IL +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Brian Wong - SMCC Product Marketing Engineeri+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 21 Sep 1994 06:00:38+ADw-/p+AD4-
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I used to think that too, but it turns out that this is not the case, at least +ADw-br+AD4- on my Gateway systems. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can steer and accelerate/brake(/break) all at the +ADw-br+AD4- same time. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I managed one really hot lap at Laguna Seca the other day on +ADw-br+AD4- the keyboard of my notebook at 1:17 (my best on the T1 is 1:07.793). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's +ADw-br+AD4- not easy. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
I found that setting the steering to linear helped me on the keyboard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Brian Wong +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Product Marketing Engineering +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-One of the most common causes of loss of one of the primary colors is simply +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-that the cable has gone bad. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-You should check this first as it is cheap to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-fix (often just re-seating the cable). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A friend of mine had green go away +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-on a brand new 20+ACY-quot+ADs- NEC (+ACQ-2K) and was pretty upset until he found that his cat +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-had been chewing on the cable. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A year later his printer quite working and, you +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-guessed it, the cat had been chewing on that cable too. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Mike Corrigan +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Thanks for the tip Mike+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I was actually very fortunate +ACY-nbsp+ADs-this weekend. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- After scouring various electronic stores, I was unable to turn up a decent +ADw-br+AD4- monitor. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Oh, sure they had the ones with the dot pitch so big you could drive +ADw-br+AD4- a truck through the gaps+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Later Sunday evening I decided to tough it out +ADw-br+AD4- and play a game with the screwed-up colors. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-After a while of playing the +ADw-br+AD4- screen flickered (+ACY-quot+ADs-great+ACEAJg-quot+ADs- I thought, +ACY-quot+ADs-now it's going to blow up+ACEAJg-quot+ADs-), and +ADw-br+AD4- voila+ACE- colors were back to normal. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Although I have two cats, they haven't gotten to the cabling yet....they +ADw-br+AD4- only tug on the joystick cord when I am making that crucial pass in the +ADw-br+AD4- turns at 180mph+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW, I did check the cabling which checked out fine. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I think whatever +ADw-br+AD4- effect the speakers I had sitting by my monitor had, finally wore off in a +ADw-br+AD4- couple of days. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Terrill +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Subject: Re: rev limiter (was: ICR Bugs and Wishlist) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Date: 18 Sep 1994 23:14:13 -0500 +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-My pet peeve is that there is no rev limiter on the engine. REAL Indy cars +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-have had these for years to keep from blowing up engines, but if you miss a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-shift (damn joystick button is not 100+ACU- reliable) you poof the motor. This is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAKg-NOT+ACo- realistic. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Actually, your situation is +ACo-VERY+ACo- realistic. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A rev limiter only works +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-with +ACY-quot+ADs-normal+ACY-quot+ADs- engine acceleration +AFs-i.e. foot on throttle, clutch engaged, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and transmission in gear+AF0-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-A missed shift (especially down) is still +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-something no rev-limiter on Earth can deal with. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Some sort of scenario labeled as +ACY-quot+ADs-rev-limiting+ACY-quot+ADs- in the pits would be the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-easiest way to impliment a pit road speed limit IMHO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-That's how they keep from violating pit speed limits these days. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-ANd I was talking about the rev limiter keeping the engine from poofing when +ADw-br+AD4- you miss an upshift, which is what a rev limiter is for (or when the drive is +ADw-br+AD4- disengaged for whatever reason). Missing a downshift does not endanger an +ADw-br+AD4- engine. Hitting one too early does, though, and this is where the rev limiter +ADw-br+AD4- can't help you. I think the trannies have enough sense not to allow a down +ADw-br+AD4- shift in this case though, (at least those with electronic shift). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-In my case I miss shifts occassionally and the engine pops. I sitll maintain +ADw-br+AD4- that this is NOT realistic. I've driven Formula Fords with rev limiters and +ADw-br+AD4- they are effective. It would seem to be an extremely simple thing to put this +ADw-br+AD4- in a simulator. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-EF Data Corp. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Vox: (602)968-0447 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-2105 W. 5th Pl. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Fax: (602)921-9012 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Tempe, AZ +ACY-nbsp+ADs-85281 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs-My employer snickers heartily at my opinions. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-------------------------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+AHwAJg-gt+ADs- In Indycar some of the top speeds do not match reality, however I think +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- that you do need to look at last years times. For example at Road America +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- they were not getting to 200 at the end of the straits, more like 185-190 +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- (during the race). My race setup has me at about 180-185 at the end of the +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- longest straits. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Interestingly, the fastest lap times (in the simulation) seem to come with +ADw-br+AD4- a top speed (at the end of the straights) of only about 176-177. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And these +ADw-br+AD4- fastest times are about the same (1:45) as the times that were being driven +ADw-br+AD4- at the real track. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-At the real track the corner speeds are slower, but the +ADw-br+AD4- top speeds are higher. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I've noticed this at all of the tracks, both ovals +ADw-br+AD4- and road courses. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-For example, in the carousel I saw (in the telemetry) +ADw-br+AD4- that the real cars could just about hold 120 mph, while in the simulation +ADw-br+AD4- I am staying above 130 mph. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I've also noticed that for my best times, I have to shift down a lot farther +ADw-br+AD4- than the real cars. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm pretty much keeping the revs above 11,500 all the +ADw-br+AD4- time, except when I'm all the way down into first gear and can't go any +ADw-br+AD4- lower. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The announcers mentioned that the drivers never use first gear +ADw-br+AD4- except in the pits and I saw that in the telemetry too. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In fact, they +ADw-br+AD4- only got down to second in the left hand turn immediately before the +ADw-br+AD4- carousel, everywhere else the minimum gear was third. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm down to first +ADw-br+AD4- in every one of the tight turns (I don't remember the turn numbers, but +ADw-br+AD4- all three of the tight left turns and the last right turn) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It seems that maybe in real cars you sacrifice a little torque for a little +ADw-br+AD4- less wear and tear on the transmission. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-No need for that in this simulation, +ADw-br+AD4- maybe it would be better if there was. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It would be very interesting if someone could get down into the 1:45 range +ADw-br+AD4- with a car that acted like the real cars (even with last years top speed +ADw-br+AD4- of 190 mph). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mike Corrigan +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I am currently working on collecting complaints, ideas and suggestions +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to then mail a large +ACY-quot+ADs-Indycar upgrade Petition+ACY-quot+ADs- to Papyrus. I am willing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-to pay for a new verion of Indycar that fixes the proplems I have +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-found, and adds a few things that were simply left out. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-My pet peeve is that there is no rev limiter on the engine. REAL Indy cars +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-have had these for years to keep from blowing up engines, but if you miss a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-shift (damn joystick button is not 100+ACU- reliable) you poof the motor. This is +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAKg-NOT+ACo- realistic. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-My second peeve has already been mentioned: If I tap the wall or otherwise +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-cripple the car, there is no yellow flag. I've put a tire down during a race +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-and managed to keep control of the car enough where I can get back to the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-pits, but since there is no yellow I wind up oodles of laps down. My +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-workaround to this is to try and take somebody else out with me, since THEN +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the yellow will come out. I have used this to my advantage many times, but +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-would much rather just have a more realistic situation where I can get a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-yellow without tagging somebody else. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-The biggest problem I have is not with the ICR simulation, but with the way +ADw-br+AD4- Papyrus has been absolutely unresponsive to the many concerns that have been +ADw-br+AD4- raised here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Their excuse is, +ACY-quot+ADs-we're working on NASCAR+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But the fact is, if ICR has problems, +ADw-br+AD4- NASCAR will too. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-And if they have fixed the problems with NASCAR, why not just use +ADw-br+AD4- that work and port it over to ICR? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Sign me up on the pettition, Peter. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-But right now, my guess is that people are +ADw-br+AD4- going to have to get real agressive to get anything more than, +ACY-quot+ADs-I've passed along +ADw-br+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-BUT: how can you run this game with the keyboard? I played F1GP that way, +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-but ICR just isn't really playable without at least a joystick+ACE- Wow+ACE- What +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs-are your keyboard laptimes in Laguna Seca? +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Been awhile since I did laguna. Road America my best time is 1:59. Keep +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- in mind that because of using the kbd, I can't brake/accelerate and steer +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- I used to think that too, but it turns out that this is not the case, at least +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- on my Gateway systems. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I can steer and accelerate/brake(/break) all at the +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- same time. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I managed one really hot lap at Laguna Seca the other day on +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- the keyboard of my notebook at 1:17 (my best on the T1 is 1:07.793). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-It's +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- not easy. +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- simultaneously, and because of the response, I think steering in general is +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- a little more difficult. +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHwAJg-gt+ADs- I found that setting the steering to linear helped me on the keyboard. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I am absolutely astounded that you guys can get reasonable times (1:59 at Elkhart, +ADw-br+AD4- 1:17 at Laguna) using the keyboard. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I ran the game once on a laptop and had to +ADw-br+AD4- use the keyboard. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I was able to get the steering lock set pretty good for an +ADw-br+AD4- oval (Michigan), but I gave up on the road tracks pretty quickly. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Amazing +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mike Corrigan +ADw-br+AD4-
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I've got used to keys now (well its a case of having to :). At Portland +ADw-br+AD4- my best is 1:01.467. At long beach i was doing mid 0:54s (i think, was +ADw-br+AD4- awhile ago). I think you have to be very careful about what keys you +ADw-br+AD4- choose. I use: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- tab, q - change down/up +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- a,s +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-- brake/accelerate +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- j,k +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-- left/right +ADw-br+AD4- (what classic driving game are these keys based on?) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I recall experimenting with using i and o for left and right, but this +ADw-br+AD4- left me in the wall just after the right hand kink after turn 1 at +ADw-br+AD4- Portland. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Having lots of keys going up and down simultaneously on pcs +ADw-br+AD4- is always a problem. There are probably rules as to what combinations +ADw-br+AD4- down work.. I'm still paranoid that my braking suffers on turn-in... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Perhaps the fastest lap posting should have a section for key-users.. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Danius +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I've got used to keys now (well its a case of having to :). At Portland +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-my best is 1:01.467. At long beach i was doing mid 0:54s (i think, was +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-awhile ago). I think you have to be very careful about what keys you +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-choose. I use: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-tab, q - change down/up +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-a,s +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-- brake/accelerate +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-j,k +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-- left/right +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-(what classic driving game are these keys based on?) +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Danius +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Revs for the BBC Micro+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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