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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 02:27:12 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-F1 Sim Wheel - Stay Away+ACEAPA-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Koeni+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-F1 Sim Wheel - Stay Away+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Koeni+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 14 Feb 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-I am the owner of a F1 Sim wheel (formerly known as the GP500) and as the +ADw-br+AD4- subject line says, I would like to advise anyone out there considering the +ADw-br+AD4- purchase of this wheel to think twice. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I purchased this wheel two years ago and was very e+ACoAKgAq-d at first. Within +ADw-br+AD4- days of purchase I noticed a phenomenon I'll call jitter. Whenever I +ADw-br+AD4- calibrated the the wheel in GP2 (which was the only sim I was using at the +ADw-br+AD4- time) I noticed that the dot would vibrate and the X and Y axis values would +ADw-br+AD4- fluctuate very rapidly by +-/- 10 or more. While driving in the sim, this +ADw-br+AD4- phenomenon would cause the car to behave very nervous and would remove a +ADw-br+AD4- degree of precise control from the car. Beyond this, the center core of the +ADw-br+AD4- steering column would pop as I turned through center from one lock to the +ADw-br+AD4- other. This would slowly throw the wheel out of calibration as I continued +ADw-br+AD4- driving. In these early days of my ownership, the people at Interactive +ADw-br+AD4- Racing were very responsive and responded quickly with an offer to return +ADw-br+AD4- the steering column for replacement. The replacement column arrived but had +ADw-br+AD4- similar problems. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Since that time I have replaced the pots in both the steering column and the +ADw-br+AD4- pedals several times. It seemed that with age, the pots and their jitter got +ADw-br+AD4- worse and worse. The only resolution I had available was to replace them. +ADw-br+AD4- The pedal springs also broke four times. I have spent about 80 pounds (more +ADw-br+AD4- if you count the shipping charges) throughout the two years on spare parts +ADw-br+AD4- from Interactive Racing. This on top of the initial purchase price adds up +ADw-br+AD4- to a hell of a lot of money. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Now the +ACoAKgAq- material that provides tension for the steering wheel has +ADw-br+AD4- torn apart and the left stop for the wheel has broken. I have e-mailed the +ADw-br+AD4- Interactive Racing people repeatedly over the past two weeks at every e-mail +ADw-br+AD4- address I know of. I have received zero in response. I am willing to pay for +ADw-br+AD4- repairs. They aren't interested in servicing their own products even for +ADw-br+AD4- money. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-They do not deserve any bsiness from anyone on this group. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Kevi+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-F1 Sim Wheel - Stay Away+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Kevi+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:34:08 -0800, +ACY-quot+ADs-Frank Koenig+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I am the owner of a F1 Sim wheel (formerly known as the GP500) and as the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-subject line says, I would like to advise anyone out there considering the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-purchase of this wheel to think twice. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I purchased this wheel two years ago and was very e+ACoAKgAq-d at first. Within +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-days of purchase I noticed a phenomenon I'll call jitter. Whenever I +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-calibrated the the wheel in GP2 (which was the only sim I was using at the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-time) I noticed that the dot would vibrate and the X and Y axis values would +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-fluctuate very rapidly by +-/- 10 or more. While driving in the sim, this +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-phenomenon would cause the car to behave very nervous and would remove a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-degree of precise control from the car. Beyond this, the center core of the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-steering column would pop as I turned through center from one lock to the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-other. This would slowly throw the wheel out of calibration as I continued +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-driving. In these early days of my ownership, the people at Interactive +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Racing were very responsive and responded quickly with an offer to return +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-the steering column for replacement. The replacement column arrived but had +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-similar problems. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Since that time I have replaced the pots in both the steering column and the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-pedals several times. It seemed that with age, the pots and their jitter got +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-worse and worse. The only resolution I had available was to replace them. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-The pedal springs also broke four times. I have spent about 80 pounds (more +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-if you count the shipping charges) throughout the two years on spare parts +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-from Interactive Racing. This on top of the initial purchase price adds up +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-to a hell of a lot of money. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Now the +ACoAKgAq- material that provides tension for the steering wheel has +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-torn apart and the left stop for the wheel has broken. I have e-mailed the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Interactive Racing people repeatedly over the past two weeks at every e-mail +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-address I know of. I have received zero in response. I am willing to pay for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-repairs. They aren't interested in servicing their own products even for +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-money. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-They do not deserve any bsiness from anyone on this group. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Perhaps they should join forces with Tmaster, then. +ACY-nbsp+ADsAOw-) +ADw-br+AD4- (note the sarcasm) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Kev +ADw-br+AD4- nxs.net is the domain and kf-lan is the username +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Frank Koeni+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-F1 Sim Wheel - Stay Away+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Frank Koeni+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-In December, when I needed a replacement pot, I e-mailed for two weeks +ADw-br+AD4- straight. I finally had to resort to faxing them and all but begging that +ADw-br+AD4- they return my e-mail. They finally did and I ordered many spare parts +ADw-br+AD4- because it was obvious that they were no longer concerned with customer +ADw-br+AD4- support. I wanted to stretch out the product as long as possible and I +ADw-br+AD4- needed an inventory of parts. I thought I'd replaced everything that could +ADw-br+AD4- go wrong, so I purchased everything I could think of: springs, pots, PCB +ADw-br+AD4- board. I'd had the board that has the gearchange switches go out last +ADw-br+AD4- September, but I didn't get one of those. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Anyway, now that the +ACoAKgAq- material that provides tension to the wheel and +ADw-br+AD4- the left stop of the wheel have broken, I'm screwed. These parts are not +ADw-br+AD4- designed to be replaced by the user. I'd have to completely take apart the +ADw-br+AD4- steering column. I need them for service. I'm willing to pay for it. They +ADw-br+AD4- have NO interest in servicing their product even if I PAY FOR IT+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This is not the kind of company anyone out there should do business with. +ADw-br+AD4- BTW, they also go by Ball Racing Deveopments. I put this in here in the +ADw-br+AD4- hopes that a potential future customer may possibly do a search with Deja +ADw-br+AD4- News on the company name and they'll read this. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Frank +ADw-br+AD4- fkoenig+AEA-lvdi.net +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APg-Perhaps they should join forces with Tmaster, then. +ACY-nbsp+ADsAOw-) +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-(note the sarcasm) +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4--Kev +ADw-br+AD4- +AD4-nxs.net is the domain and kf-lan is the username +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mari+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-F1 Sim Wheel - Stay Away+ACEAPA-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mari+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-At all sim racers: +ADw-br+AD4- Buy a ECCI +ACY-nbsp+ADs-CDS2 system, i have it since two years and i can tell you it's +ADw-br+AD4- fantastic. 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