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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 04:25:50 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4- +ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Theo Nieuwstrat+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Theo Nieuwstrat+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-There is a big error in the qualifying session. +ADw-br+AD4- I was making to the best lap on monza so far +ADw-br+AD4- I was .200 s under schummi's time. I get the signal qualifying over, +ADw-br+AD4- dreaming about my first pole (because you can finish that lap in +ADw-br+AD4- f1+ACEAIQAhACE-), my screen turned black and was thrown back to the race menu. +ADw-br+AD4- This is not only time. It happend a couple of times after that time +ADw-br+AD4- too. It takes a lot of excitment out of the game. +ADw-br+AD4- for example look at the qualifying session at the hungaroring in +ADw-br+AD4- hungary. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Theo Nieuwstraten +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Daniel Desland+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Daniel Desland+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-I may be wrong but i think you cant finish a lap in real F1 when time +ADw-br+AD4- has run out. I heard comments about Hill doing his best just xx +ADw-br+AD4- seconds before the end of the Q session in Hungary etc... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Is there a place on the web where we could have the rules for F1 +ADw-br+AD4- races? (Qualif etc) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-thanks+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Daniel +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-There is a big error in the qualifying session. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I was making to the best lap on monza so far +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I was .200 s under schummi's time. I get the signal qualifying over, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-dreaming about my first pole (because you can finish that lap in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-f1+ACEAIQAhACE-), my screen turned black and was thrown back to the race menu. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-This is not only time. It happend a couple of times after that time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-too. It takes a lot of excitment out of the game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-for example look at the qualifying session at the hungaroring in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-hungary. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Theo Nieuwstraten +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Patrick Giesberg+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Patrick Giesberg+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-I may be wrong but i think you cant finish a lap in real F1 when time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-has run out. I heard comments about Hill doing his best just xx +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-seconds before the end of the Q session in Hungary etc... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-There is a big error in the qualifying session. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I was making to the best lap on monza so far +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-I was .200 s under schummi's time. I get the signal qualifying over, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-dreaming about my first pole (because you can finish that lap in +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-f1+ACEAIQAhACE-), my screen turned black and was thrown back to the race menu. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-This is not only time. It happend a couple of times after that time +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-too. It takes a lot of excitment out of the game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs-for example look at the qualifying session at the hungaroring in +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I've had the same thing as well. I wondered too if I was crazy or GP2. +ADw-br+AD4- As far as I know, in real F1 you are allowed to complete your lap if you +ADw-br+AD4- crossed the finishline before the end of the qualifying session. So you +ADw-br+AD4- can call this a bug. F1GP 1 did has the same bug. Actually some small +ADw-br+AD4- annoying things from F1GP 1 are still in the GP2. Hmm, I can't think of +ADw-br+AD4- any right now... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Patrick +ADw-br+AD4- +---------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +---------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- aminet: /pub/game/board/pesten.lha +ADw-br+AD4- +--------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- ftp.funet.fi:/pub/msdos/games/card/pesten.zip +ADw-br+AD4- +----------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-mhat..+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-mhat..+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-crossed the finishline before the end of the qualifying session. So you +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-can call this a bug. F1GP 1 did has the same bug. Actually some small +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-annoying things from F1GP 1 are still in the GP2. Hmm, I can't think of +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-any right now... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I agree that is a frustrating feature of GP2 and the orginal. However, +ADw-br+AD4- thats all it is .... a feature. As in +ACY-quot+ADs-functions as designed+ACY-quot+ADs-. A bug +ADw-br+AD4- would be a piece of code that produced an unanticipated result. This +ADw-br+AD4- feature was the intention of the designer(s). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I hate to be nit picky here, but I don't want people to get confused +ADw-br+AD4- between bugs and program design. If you want a good example of +ADw-br+AD4- bugs...just look at any first release of the Papyrus sims. +ADs--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Before you blast me for being so anal, I too wish microprose would +ADw-br+AD4- release a patch that changed this +ACY-quot+ADs-feature+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Mike +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-John M. Punsho+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-John M. Punsho+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- Its a design flaw. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-But isn't it worse than just the final qualifying lap? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody correct me +ADw-br+AD4- if I'm wrong but in F1 when you are restricted to 12 laps in qualifying, +ADw-br+AD4- doesn't that mean 12 +ACo-flying+ACo- laps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In GP2 if I exit the pits, go round +ADw-br+AD4- once and come in again, I lose one of my laps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If I'm in the pits with 2 +ADw-br+AD4- laps left, they are useless to me because I can't get a flying lap in. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-John +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-2 I.T. Nort+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-2 I.T. Nort+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Sorry, that's actually the way it works.. for one flying lap you expend +ADw-br+AD4- 3 laps in total. Out lap, fast lap, in lap. That's why they only do 3 or +ADw-br+AD4- 4 runs at most in a qualifying session. +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- 2 I.T. North +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-G. Warren Ab+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-G. Warren Ab+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Okey-dokey. +ACY-nbsp+ADsAOw--) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Nope. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In F1, laps leaving the pits and entering the pits count as one of the +ADw-br+AD4- twelve laps. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Well, then, make sure you don't leave yourself in that situation anymore. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-In qualifying, I go either 4 laps-4 laps-4 laps (if tires don't wear out too +ADw-br+AD4- fast after the first flyer) or 3-3-3-3 (if tires do wear out so much that the +ADw-br+AD4- second flying lap cannot improve over the first one). +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Of course, if I try to +ADw-br+AD4- go for two flying laps on a set of tires and mess up during the second flying +ADw-br+AD4- lap, I'll dive into the pits right away to save a lap (so my qualifying session +ADw-br+AD4- will go 4-3-5 or something like that). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +------------------+-------------------------------------------- +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-G. Warren Abao +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- http://users.southeast.net/+AH4-wabao/ifl +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +-----------------------------------------+------------------ +ADw-br+AD4- +AHw- SPOOOOOOOOOOON+ACEAIQAh- +AHw- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-BBL Jacksonville 3-1 +ACY-nbsp+ADsAfA- IFL Chicago 11-7 +AHw- +ADw-br+AD4- +-------------------+------------------------+------------------ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-TOBY BRANFO+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-TOBY BRANFO+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-JP+ACY-gt+ADs- But isn't it worse than just the final qualifying lap? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody +ADw-br+AD4- JP+ACY-gt+ADs- correct me if I'm wrong but in F1 when you are restricted to 12 laps +ADw-br+AD4- JP+ACY-gt+ADs- in qualifying, doesn't that mean 12 +ACo-flying+ACo- laps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In GP2 if I exit +ADw-br+AD4- JP+ACY-gt+ADs- the pits, go round once and come in again, I lose one of my laps. +ADw-br+AD4- JP+ACY-gt+ADs- If I'm in the pits with 2 laps left, they are useless to me because +ADw-br+AD4- JP+ACY-gt+ADs- I can't get a flying lap in. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Sorry, that's not wrong, that's the way it is. That's why mostly they +ADw-br+AD4- come out three times (warm-up, two flying, in lap x 3 +AD0- 12) or four +ADw-br+AD4- times (warm-up, one flying, in lap x 4 +AD0- 12) only. And why aborting a +ADw-br+AD4- flying lap early that's been spoilt by your mistakes, traffic, etc by +ADw-br+AD4- diving into the pits and not crossing the line saves you a lap since you +ADw-br+AD4- don't then troll around again. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- --- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAKg- RM 1.3 U0414 +ACo- +ACY-quot+ADs-Is this +ACoAKgAq-?+ACY-quot+ADs- asked Tom, half in Ernest. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Craig Marc+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Craig Marc+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Fri, 16 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-But isn't it worse than just the final qualifying lap? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody correct me +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-if I'm wrong but in F1 when you are restricted to 12 laps in qualifying, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-doesn't that mean 12 +ACo-flying+ACo- laps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In GP2 if I exit the pits, go round +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-once and come in again, I lose one of my laps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If I'm in the pits with 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-laps left, they are useless to me because I can't get a flying lap in. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-No, I believe in F1 the warmup lap and cool-down lap are counted as part of +ADw-br+AD4- your 12 laps. But what we all know is correct, that any lap started before the +ADw-br+AD4- time expires counts as a timed lap. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Craig Marcho +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jeffrey Haa+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jeffrey Haa+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-p+AD4- Consider yourself corrected +ADs-) . +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In F1 you get 12 laps PERIOD. In essence +ADw-br+AD4- 4 flying laps if you only do 1 per set of tires: 1 out lap, flying hot lap +ADw-br+AD4- and an in lap. Tough Stuff. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jeff +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p11+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile11+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Nicola Salmor+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content11+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p11+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Nicola Salmor+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 19 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- No. 12 total laps, no matter what you do. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Nicola Salmoria +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p12+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile12+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Manny Laguata+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content12+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p12+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Manny Laguata+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- I agree that is a frustrating feature of GP2 and the orginal. However, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- thats all it is .... a feature. As in +ACY-quot+ADs-functions as designed+ACY-quot+ADs-. A bug +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- would be a piece of code that produced an unanticipated result. This +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- feature was the intention of the designer(s). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Its a design flaw. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- But isn't it worse than just the final qualifying lap? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody correct me +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- if I'm wrong but in F1 when you are restricted to 12 laps in qualifying, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- doesn't that mean 12 +ACo-flying+ACo- laps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In GP2 if I exit the pits, go round +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- once and come in again, I lose one of my laps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If I'm in the pits with 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- laps left, they are useless to me because I can't get a flying lap in. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- John +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Hi John, +ADw-br+AD4- Unfortunately twelve laps means ALL laps including warming up and cooling down...... +ADw-br+AD4- Good luck, +ADw-br+AD4- Manny +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p13+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile13+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gertjan Westene+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content13+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p13+ACIAPg-gp2: big error in qualifying+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gertjan Westene+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- I agree that is a frustrating feature of GP2 and the orginal. However, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- thats all it is .... a feature. As in +ACY-quot+ADs-functions as designed+ACY-quot+ADs-. A bug +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- would be a piece of code that produced an unanticipated result. This +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- feature was the intention of the designer(s). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Its a design flaw. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- But isn't it worse than just the final qualifying lap? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Somebody correct me +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- if I'm wrong but in F1 when you are restricted to 12 laps in qualifying, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- doesn't that mean 12 +ACo-flying+ACo- laps? +ACY-nbsp+ADs-In GP2 if I exit the pits, go round +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- once and come in again, I lose one of my laps. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-If I'm in the pits with 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- laps left, they are useless to me because I can't get a flying lap in. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- John +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-Hi John, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Unfortunately twelve laps means ALL laps including warming up and cooling +ADw-br+AD4- down...... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Good luck, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Manny +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-That's the way it goes in real F1 too. 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