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Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/h2+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile1+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content1+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p1+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:43:41+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-So the shifter paddle on my Momo wheel stopped working today. I think I can +ADw-br+AD4- fix it for a few dollars, but it's also a once in a decade chance (it's been +ADw-br+AD4- that long, I think, or at least darned close) to think about a G25. Any +ADw-br+AD4- strong opinions here? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Well, it's moot at this point. The decision was simple with that Amazon +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-Two-Day 1 Click+ACY-quot+ADs- Prime button in front of me. :) It'll be here Tuesday. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Just the same, is it worth it? Domestic relationships and all, in addition +ADw-br+AD4- to +ACQ-170 more than the +ACY-quot+ADs-plain+ACY-quot+ADs- Momo? I dabble in rFactor and GTR2, always +ADw-br+AD4- wondering why I can't ever get the car to front rows in qualifying. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p2+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile2+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4APQA9---+AD0APA-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content2+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p2+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4APQA9---+AD0APA-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:54:08+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-It's worth it - you won't be disappointed. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-(shifter is a bit +ACY-quot+ADs-weak+ACY-quot+ADs- - but the wheel and pedals are great+ACE-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Cheers +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-' +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p3+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile3+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Ed Medli+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content3+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p3+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Ed Medli+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:22:01+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- Just my opinion but yes. It is well built and does not have the problems +ADw-br+AD4- that the Momo had. I had returned 5-6 Momos with the accelerator calibration +ADw-br+AD4- problem (never had one last long enough to get any other problems) before I +ADw-br+AD4- finally just broke down and got the G25. The shifter is ok for Nascar but +ADw-br+AD4- tough to use on road courses because the gate detenting is not what it could +ADw-br+AD4- be and is easy to miss gears. I use the paddle shifters for road courses +ADw-br+AD4- (GTR, GTL, Rfactor etc) and the shifter for the Nascar oval stuff. FFB can +ADw-br+AD4- be a little overwhealming and you will probably need to fine tune that to +ADw-br+AD4- the strength you want to have. The precision of the unit may help you a bit, +ADw-br+AD4- but in order to qualify better you still need to +ADw-br+AD4- practice-practice-practice...........:-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Ed +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p4+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile4+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Michael Sisso+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content4+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p4+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Michael Sisso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:20:11+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I just got mine yesterday. I have had, for reference, an Original Red +ADw-br+AD4- Logi (cable driven), an Act Labs monstrosity (and later the Shifter), +ADw-br+AD4- and a black Logi MOMO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Red Logi was my favorite (of those three), due to the sublime force +ADw-br+AD4- feedback. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I am +ACo-really+ACo- liking the dual motor FF in the G25. It is quieter and +ADw-br+AD4- smoother than either the A-L or the MOMO. There is some very subdued +ADw-br+AD4- 'notchiness', but nothing like in the A-L. I guess after the cable drive +ADw-br+AD4- of the Red, anything now is going to feel notchy to some degree. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So far the small number (2) of buttons on the face of the wheel has not +ADw-br+AD4- been a problem for me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I was worried about the shifter being too loose, but I personally like +ADw-br+AD4- the way it shifts. It is magnitudes quieter than the A-L shifter. The +ADw-br+AD4- clamping system makes it solid on my desk, whereas the A-L shifter +ADw-br+AD4- flexed all the time. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-This is going to be the first Logi wheel that I haven't had the desire +ADw-br+AD4- to immediately throw out the shitty pedals and wire my CH Pedals to. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The 'real leather' must have come off alien plastic cows. Or maybe it is +ADw-br+AD4- made from the hides of back alley rats. +ADs-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Now, back to training my left foot that the clutch is not the brake. +ADw-br+AD4- Doh. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-MRSisson +ADw-br+AD4- -- +ADw-br+AD4- LOAD +ACY-quot+ADs-GPL+ACY-quot+ADs-,8 +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-SEARCHING FOR GPL +ADw-br+AD4- LOADING +ADw-br+AD4- READY. +ADw-br+AD4- RUN +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p5+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile5+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Rick+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content5+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p5+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Rick+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:32:51+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- I have had a few goes on a g25. They are good wheels. The accelerator +ADw-br+AD4- calibration +ACY-nbsp+ADs-went on my momo this week. I will be getting a Xbox 360 +ADw-br+AD4- Wireless PC Adaptor so I can use my xbox 360 wheel in till i save for +ADw-br+AD4- a g25 wheel. Go for it get 1. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p6+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile6+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Bob Simpso+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content6+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p6+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Bob Simpso+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:05:24+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Similar to me. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I started out with the cheap Logi Force GP, then the +ADw-br+AD4- Act-Labs wheel, H-shifter and BRD pedals. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I just got the G25 a month ago and it's great. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The light tough of the +ADw-br+AD4- shifter takes a little getting used to after the A-L shifter, but I +ADw-br+AD4- miss fewer shifts now. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p7+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile7+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Steve Blankenshi+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content7+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p7+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Steve Blankenshi+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:53:19+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Probably won't make you any faster (practice+ACE-), but it will likely make you +ADw-br+AD4- more consistent, as well as give you more enjoyment from your racing sims. +ADw-br+AD4- I've never been as quick on a hotlap with any FF wheel as I was with my old +ADw-br+AD4- non-FF Wingman/CH pedal setup, but I drive with a much more realistic style +ADw-br+AD4- now and finally appreciate FF. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I only converted to FF as of the DFP as I'd +ADw-br+AD4- never liked FF before, and the main thing about the DFP that did it for me +ADw-br+AD4- was the multi-turn aspect. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I run my wheel at 540 degrees of rotation in +ADw-br+AD4- just about everything now, and apreciate being able to disable the low speed +ADw-br+AD4- lock override in all sims and run fully linear steering all the time. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I +ADw-br+AD4- could never go back to a 240 degree wheel+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-But the biggest difference in driving between the G25 and the DFP is the +ADw-br+AD4- speed of response+ADs- it easily reacts twice as fast, allowing you to feel the +ADw-br+AD4- car's behavior much sooner and thus comfortably run looser (perhaps faster?) +ADw-br+AD4- setups. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The clutch is nice to have for starts (it really works), and as for +ADw-br+AD4- the shifter, it's OK if you want to go retro but I honestly leave the +ADw-br+AD4- shifter pod on the floor all the time now and use the paddles only. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-More +ADw-br+AD4- buttons would be welcome, but it's manageable as is with a keyboard close at +ADw-br+AD4- hand and I haven't been tempted to pull the DFP out of the closet once since +ADw-br+AD4- I plugged this thing in. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Well worth it+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-SB +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p8+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile8+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content8+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p8+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:16:23+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Thanks, all, for the help and responses. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- That's surprising. I didn't consider that I might even try multi-turn. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- On the PS2 or PC? Both? I'm strictly PC here. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Looser might be what I need to +ACY-quot+ADs-fix+ACY-quot+ADs- some trouble spots. My line, not the +ADw-br+AD4- car. I have to be way more conservative right now than I know I need to be. +ADw-br+AD4- That's compared to the AI lines. Hotlappers have nothing to fear from me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Great discussion. Thanks. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BTW. I noticed just now that Forza2 is out. When did that happen? +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p9+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile9+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-mcewen+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content9+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p9+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-mcewen+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:51:44+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- Hang on to your shipping box and paperwork. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I love the feel of mine (once I get used to the buttons being off to +ADw-br+AD4- the right on the shifter), but from new the H pattern shifter can't +ADw-br+AD4- tell the difference between 6th and reverse (apparently it's a +ACY-quot+ADs-known +ADw-br+AD4- problem+ACY-quot+ADs-) and now after less then 6 months of gentle use the upshift +ADw-br+AD4- paddle is starting to miss shifts. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p10+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile10+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-P Ga+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content10+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p10+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-P Ga+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:35:38+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACo-Date:+ACo- Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:43:41 -0500 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- to think about a G25. Any strong opinions here? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-I've had my G25 for a couple of months here, and so far, its only really +ADw-br+AD4- had light use, but it has not missed a beat, works perfectly. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It is easy to set-up. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The Logitech software is good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It works with all my (many driving sims, and even a few bike sims). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Build quality seems to be good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-8-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AKg-Peter+ACo- - +ACY-nbsp+ADs-http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/ +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p11+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile11+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-The Other Larr+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content11+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p11+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-The Other Larr+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:00:16+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-It's June 26th, and still no REAL Vista software for the G25. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Promised for +ADw-br+AD4- June release, so they still have a few days :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--Larry +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACo-Date:+ACo- Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:43:41 -0500 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- to think about a G25. Any strong opinions here? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I've had my G25 for a couple of months here, and so far, its only really +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- had light use, but it has not missed a beat, works perfectly. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- It is easy to set-up. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- The Logitech software is good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- It works with all my (many driving sims, and even a few bike sims). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Build quality seems to be good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- 8-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACo-Peter+ACo- - +ACY-nbsp+ADs-http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p12+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile12+ACIAPg- +ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/dt+AD4- +ADw-/dl+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg- +ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content12+ACIAPg- +ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p12+ACIAPg-G25. Opportunity? or just another headache?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4- +ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg- +ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Mike Youn+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:48:05+ADw-/p+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Well, UPS dropped mine off here this afternoon. (Running XP+ADs- no problems +ADw-br+AD4- here. :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The first few minutes were frustrating+ADs- too many changes all at once. +ADw-br+AD4- 6-speed h-shifter and 900 deg of lock. :) I don't think I'll try that again +ADw-br+AD4- any time soon. 540 degrees felt pretty good after a few laps. The novelty of +ADw-br+AD4- handshifting and double clutching wore off pretty quick+ADs- I went back to the +ADw-br+AD4- shift paddles and haven't looked back. It sounds stupid, but by the second +ADw-br+AD4- session, I had taken 4 seconds off my best time at rFactor's Toban in a +ADw-br+AD4- Toyota Atlantic. Simply amazing, and almost effortlessly, too. I'm at a loss +ADw-br+AD4- to explain it. (Oh yeah. This might have something to do with it. Last +ADw-br+AD4- night, I installed RealFeel, and turned on invulnerability to really toss +ADw-br+AD4- around the M3. I took a few seconds off my lap record then too, but that was +ADw-br+AD4- sweaty work pushing the limits hard. I was still using the decade old Momo +ADw-br+AD4- then, with a busted shift paddle. So it's RealFeel that's helping. Or maybe +ADw-br+AD4- it's just invulnerability and a less inhibited driving style. Bounce off +ADw-br+AD4- walls +ACo-and+ACo- keep the hot tires. Real life should be so grand. :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I wish I could say that I love the new toy, but I can see right away I won't +ADw-br+AD4- even notice it. It disappears in the hand, the way a good tool does. That's +ADw-br+AD4- the way I like it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPgAm-gt+ADs- It's June 26th, and still no REAL Vista software for the G25. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-Promised +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- for June release, so they still have a few days :) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- -Larry +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACo-Date:+ACo- Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:43:41 -0500 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- to think about a G25. Any strong opinions here? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- I've had my G25 for a couple of months here, and so far, its only really +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- had light use, but it has not missed a beat, works perfectly. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- It is easy to set-up. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- The Logitech software is good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- It works with all my (many driving sims, and even a few bike sims). +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- Build quality seems to be good. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- 8-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADsAJg-gt+ADs- +ACo-Peter+ACo- - +ACY-nbsp+ADs-http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/ +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-hr /+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg- +ADw-br/+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-1. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-fc7b5192f654a1ff+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-New Logi Wheel G25+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-2. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-200d4c70d22cc3fe+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Logitech G25 Wheel Information+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-3. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-dd3c9405fd1112d2+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Logi G25 wheel - hires images+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-4. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-d85aef4be6e5ab9f+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Logitech G25+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-5. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-2a24dce968065788+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Logitech G25 Pedals+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-6. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-da393cc0295dbb52+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-G25 wheel users reviews+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-7. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-ce6cf785738d9299+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-G25 Shipping From Amazon+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-8. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-9d38bcf17b345cee+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-Logitech G25 Initial Impressions+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-9. +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-c400e03115ef5e29+AF8-1.html+ACIAPg-So, who all here got the G25+ACYAIw-39+ADs-s?+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/p+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg- +ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4- +ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI- style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI- data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI- data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI- data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI- data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4- +ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4- (function() +AHs- var done +AD0- false+ADs- var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs- script.async +AD0- true+ADs- script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs- script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs- var createScript +AD0- setTimeout( function()+AHs- document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs- +AH0-, 400 )+ADs- script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs- if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs- (adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs- +AH0- +AH0AOw- +AH0-)()+ADs- +ADw-/script+AD4- +ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4- +ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. 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